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Attributes | |
ACN | 210111 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6500 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 750 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 210111 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When I departed slc, there were no NOTAMS in effect for R-6412 a&B on ATIS. I flew direct to (U42) slc #2 and picked up my passenger for a local pleasure flight. Departing slc #2 I stayed below the TCA, and flew south across the western edge of R-6412 a&B at about 6500 ft. I had recalled that these restr areas coincided with the TCA, ie, 9000- 10000 ft in that area, and so I was not concerned about them at my altitude. When returning to slc, ATIS was reporting r- 6412 a&B active, surface to 9000 ft. I looked up the areas on my chart and found what I had thought was in error: R-6412 B is 9000-10000 ft as is the TCA, R-6412 a is surface to 9000 ft. I do not know when they became active, as ATIS was reporting on my return to slc. ATIS was xx on departure and xy on arrival. My familiarity and resultant complacency were contributors to this. At one point on my trip I noticed my altitude at 7000 ft and was not able to reference my position close enough/fast enough to see if I was far enough south to be where the TCA goes to 9000-10000 ft as in my prior discussion of R-6412 a&B. I immediately dropped the nose to get below 7000 ft, however, I may have entered the base of the TCA for a couple of seconds. This was strictly due to too much sight-seeing and not scanning my instruments enough. Supplemental information from acn 210112: I was not clear on direction given by ATC, 'to proceed northbound over the I-15 freeway at 6000 ft.' when I had been idented they called me '5 mi south of the murray stacks,' which are just east of the I-15 freeway. The murray stacks stuck in my mind and I kept the nose pointed right toward them. When questioned on my position just east of I-15, ATC let me know I should have been directly over I-15. This time I immediately complied.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMA COMMERCIAL PLT WAS ON 1 OR 2 SIGHT SEEING FLTS ON THE SAME DAY WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF 2 RPTS FOR 1 FLT. 1 RPT DEALS WITH PENETRATING A RESTRICTED AREA THAT WAS 'HOT,' AND THE OTHER WITH PENETRATING THE EDGE OF THE TCA WITHOUT CLRNC. THE RESTRICTED AREAS WERE NOT MENTIONED AS 'HOT' ON HIS DEP ATIS.
Narrative: WHEN I DEPARTED SLC, THERE WERE NO NOTAMS IN EFFECT FOR R-6412 A&B ON ATIS. I FLEW DIRECT TO (U42) SLC #2 AND PICKED UP MY PAX FOR A LCL PLEASURE FLT. DEPARTING SLC #2 I STAYED BELOW THE TCA, AND FLEW S ACROSS THE WESTERN EDGE OF R-6412 A&B AT ABOUT 6500 FT. I HAD RECALLED THAT THESE RESTR AREAS COINCIDED WITH THE TCA, IE, 9000- 10000 FT IN THAT AREA, AND SO I WAS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THEM AT MY ALT. WHEN RETURNING TO SLC, ATIS WAS RPTING R- 6412 A&B ACTIVE, SURFACE TO 9000 FT. I LOOKED UP THE AREAS ON MY CHART AND FOUND WHAT I HAD THOUGHT WAS IN ERROR: R-6412 B IS 9000-10000 FT AS IS THE TCA, R-6412 A IS SURFACE TO 9000 FT. I DO NOT KNOW WHEN THEY BECAME ACTIVE, AS ATIS WAS RPTING ON MY RETURN TO SLC. ATIS WAS XX ON DEP AND XY ON ARR. MY FAMILIARITY AND RESULTANT COMPLACENCY WERE CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS. AT ONE POINT ON MY TRIP I NOTICED MY ALT AT 7000 FT AND WAS NOT ABLE TO REF MY POS CLOSE ENOUGH/FAST ENOUGH TO SEE IF I WAS FAR ENOUGH S TO BE WHERE THE TCA GOES TO 9000-10000 FT AS IN MY PRIOR DISCUSSION OF R-6412 A&B. I IMMEDIATELY DROPPED THE NOSE TO GET BELOW 7000 FT, HOWEVER, I MAY HAVE ENTERED THE BASE OF THE TCA FOR A COUPLE OF SECONDS. THIS WAS STRICTLY DUE TO TOO MUCH SIGHT-SEEING AND NOT SCANNING MY INSTS ENOUGH. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 210112: I WAS NOT CLR ON DIRECTION GIVEN BY ATC, 'TO PROCEED NBOUND OVER THE I-15 FREEWAY AT 6000 FT.' WHEN I HAD BEEN IDENTED THEY CALLED ME '5 MI S OF THE MURRAY STACKS,' WHICH ARE JUST E OF THE I-15 FREEWAY. THE MURRAY STACKS STUCK IN MY MIND AND I KEPT THE NOSE POINTED RIGHT TOWARD THEM. WHEN QUESTIONED ON MY POS JUST E OF I-15, ATC LET ME KNOW I SHOULD HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY OVER I-15. THIS TIME I IMMEDIATELY COMPLIED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.