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Attributes | |
ACN | 210635 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 210635 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | other physical facility |
Narrative:
In an ongoing effort to keep you abreast of the problems at stl are encountering with our ASR9 radar let me really to you what I observed yesterday, 5/X/92, as I worked the final monitor position. We were running simultaneous approachs to 12L and 12R via the 12L lda localizer and the 12R ILS localizer. Air carrier X was on the lda localizer paired with air carrier Y on the ILS localizer. They were 11 mi from lambert airport. Air carrier Y's primary jumped up about 1/2 mi behind air carrier X's primary target. One sweep later it was correctly repositioned on the 12 localizer. In talking with 2 controllers who worked the position later in the day they stated that they also observed similar scenarios. This situation should not happen ever. If you read the enclosed notice (stl ATCT N7110.123) the procedures instituted 'will eliminate these occurrences.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR COMPLAINT ABOUT DATA TAG FLIP FLOP ON PARALLEL APCH ACFT.
Narrative: IN AN ONGOING EFFORT TO KEEP YOU ABREAST OF THE PROBLEMS AT STL ARE ENCOUNTERING WITH OUR ASR9 RADAR LET ME REALLY TO YOU WHAT I OBSERVED YESTERDAY, 5/X/92, AS I WORKED THE FINAL MONITOR POS. WE WERE RUNNING SIMULTANEOUS APCHS TO 12L AND 12R VIA THE 12L LDA LOC AND THE 12R ILS LOC. ACR X WAS ON THE LDA LOC PAIRED WITH ACR Y ON THE ILS LOC. THEY WERE 11 MI FROM LAMBERT ARPT. ACR Y'S PRIMARY JUMPED UP ABOUT 1/2 MI BEHIND ACR X'S PRIMARY TARGET. ONE SWEEP LATER IT WAS CORRECTLY REPOSITIONED ON THE 12 LOC. IN TALKING WITH 2 CTLRS WHO WORKED THE POS LATER IN THE DAY THEY STATED THAT THEY ALSO OBSERVED SIMILAR SCENARIOS. THIS SITUATION SHOULD NOT HAPPEN EVER. IF YOU READ THE ENCLOSED NOTICE (STL ATCT N7110.123) THE PROCS INSTITUTED 'WILL ELIMINATE THESE OCCURRENCES.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.