Clearance landing not received.

Attributes
ACN	210912
Time
Date	199205
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : san
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : san
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3500
ASRS Report	210912
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 60
ASRS Report	210856
Events
Anomaly	incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was conducting initial operating experience for the first officer. We were discussing the way I was flying the approach and she forgot to change to the tower for landing clearance. We remained on the approach control frequency until on the runway. Nothing adverse happened, but I recognize how the distraction of training created a hazardous situation. Training must stop at or before the marker. I think she was expecting the approach controller to tell her to change to tower. Supplemental information from acn 210856: when in operations, called tower on the phone. They said that they had cleared us to land in the blind and how unsafe the whole situation was. Tower said they would not file a report. The situation probably would not have occurred had approach told us to contact tower. Also, the training situation caused distraction in the cockpit that normally would not be there. The first officer was new to the flying seat and airplane, after 4 yrs as a flight engineer. That was a factor in the tower not being contacted.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLRNC LNDG NOT RECEIVED.

Narrative: I WAS CONDUCTING INITIAL OPERATING EXPERIENCE FOR THE FO. WE WERE DISCUSSING THE WAY I WAS FLYING THE APCH AND SHE FORGOT TO CHANGE TO THE TWR FOR LNDG CLRNC. WE REMAINED ON THE APCH CTL FREQ UNTIL ON THE RWY. NOTHING ADVERSE HAPPENED, BUT I RECOGNIZE HOW THE DISTR OF TRAINING CREATED A HAZARDOUS SITUATION. TRAINING MUST STOP AT OR BEFORE THE MARKER. I THINK SHE WAS EXPECTING THE APCH CTLR TO TELL HER TO CHANGE TO TWR. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 210856: WHEN IN OPS, CALLED TWR ON THE PHONE. THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD CLRED US TO LAND IN THE BLIND AND HOW UNSAFE THE WHOLE SITUATION WAS. TWR SAID THEY WOULD NOT FILE A RPT. THE SITUATION PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED HAD APCH TOLD US TO CONTACT TWR. ALSO, THE TRAINING SITUATION CAUSED DISTR IN THE COCKPIT THAT NORMALLY WOULD NOT BE THERE. THE FO WAS NEW TO THE FLYING SEAT AND AIRPLANE, AFTER 4 YRS AS A FLT ENGINEER. THAT WAS A FACTOR IN THE TWR NOT BEING CONTACTED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.