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A controller claims that a taxiing air carrier failed to hold short of the hold line causing a landing air carrier to make a slight turn on the runway to avoid a potential accident.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 211564 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199205 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : ground |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 4 |
| ASRS Report | 211564 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
IFR, runway change in progress. Air carrier X, a widebody transport instructed to hold short of arrival runway, 13L. The aircraft appeared to continue moving very slowly until it was past the hold bars. At this time air carrier Y, a widebody transport, landed 13L and was rolling out. Air carrier Y appeared to make a slight turn while rolling to avoid air carrier X's nose. Air carrier Y exited the runway at the next intersection and continued to the ramp without incident. Air carrier X departed. A common occurrence at jfk, foreign pilots not complying with instructions, or not understanding them. The only solution I can see is more intensive training in english and use ATC procedures for pilots operating at american airports.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CTLR CLAIMS THAT A TAXIING ACR FAILED TO HOLD SHORT OF THE HOLD LINE CAUSING A LNDG ACR TO MAKE A SLIGHT TURN ON THE RWY TO AVOID A POTENTIAL ACCIDENT.
Narrative: IFR, RWY CHANGE IN PROGRESS. ACR X, A WDB INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF ARR RWY, 13L. THE ACFT APPEARED TO CONTINUE MOVING VERY SLOWLY UNTIL IT WAS PAST THE HOLD BARS. AT THIS TIME ACR Y, A WDB, LANDED 13L AND WAS ROLLING OUT. ACR Y APPEARED TO MAKE A SLIGHT TURN WHILE ROLLING TO AVOID ACR X'S NOSE. ACR Y EXITED THE RWY AT THE NEXT INTXN AND CONTINUED TO THE RAMP WITHOUT INCIDENT. ACR X DEPARTED. A COMMON OCCURRENCE AT JFK, FOREIGN PLTS NOT COMPLYING WITH INSTRUCTIONS, OR NOT UNDERSTANDING THEM. THE ONLY SOLUTION I CAN SEE IS MORE INTENSIVE TRAINING IN ENGLISH AND USE ATC PROCS FOR PLTS OPERATING AT AMERICAN ARPTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.