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Attributes | |
ACN | 213705 |
Time | |
Date | 199206 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : abq |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 213705 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying with a new first officer who was having his share of problems. After pushback I was explaining why a certain step in our procedures was accomplished in the manner we did it. During a break in my explanation, I told him to call for taxi. He did and we were cleared to taxi to runway 8. I continued to answer his questions as we started to taxi. Ground control then called and told us to hold short of 17. Luckily, I was listening because my first officer never heard it. A very sharp ground controller saved us from, at best, a runway incursion, and, at worst, a collision with a small transport who was taking off on 17. You may ask how I got anywhere near 17 while I was taxiing to 8 and the answer is simple. My head was up and locked. Even though I had landed on 8 I was on my way to the east end of the airport. My best guesses as to why I was doing this are 1) we more often than not takeoff west, 2) my destination was west and I subconsciously wanted to takeoff that way, 3) I honestly thought our instructions were to taxi to runway 28 (even though abq's east/west runway is 8/26). It had already been a long day (we had flown 4 legs and had 3 more to go), and I was so intent on keeping my first officer on the straight and narrow that I almost slid into the ditch. I really don't know what I should have done differently other than listen up. With quick turns and a schedule to keep there isn't enough time to debrief and rebrief everything between flts. My first officer was a good pilot but new to airline operations and as such was generally clueless. At certain critical times, I found myself instructing rather than running a cohesive crew. I guess I need to watch out for rectal cranial insertion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT TAXIING CAUTIONED TO HOLD SHORT OF XING RWY BY GND CTLR. AVOIDS RWY INCURSION.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING WITH A NEW FO WHO WAS HAVING HIS SHARE OF PROBLEMS. AFTER PUSHBACK I WAS EXPLAINING WHY A CERTAIN STEP IN OUR PROCS WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN THE MANNER WE DID IT. DURING A BREAK IN MY EXPLANATION, I TOLD HIM TO CALL FOR TAXI. HE DID AND WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 8. I CONTINUED TO ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS AS WE STARTED TO TAXI. GND CTL THEN CALLED AND TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT OF 17. LUCKILY, I WAS LISTENING BECAUSE MY FO NEVER HEARD IT. A VERY SHARP GND CTLR SAVED US FROM, AT BEST, A RWY INCURSION, AND, AT WORST, A COLLISION WITH A SMT WHO WAS TAKING OFF ON 17. YOU MAY ASK HOW I GOT ANYWHERE NEAR 17 WHILE I WAS TAXIING TO 8 AND THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE. MY HEAD WAS UP AND LOCKED. EVEN THOUGH I HAD LANDED ON 8 I WAS ON MY WAY TO THE E END OF THE ARPT. MY BEST GUESSES AS TO WHY I WAS DOING THIS ARE 1) WE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT TKOF W, 2) MY DEST WAS W AND I SUBCONSCIOUSLY WANTED TO TKOF THAT WAY, 3) I HONESTLY THOUGHT OUR INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO TAXI TO RWY 28 (EVEN THOUGH ABQ'S E/W RWY IS 8/26). IT HAD ALREADY BEEN A LONG DAY (WE HAD FLOWN 4 LEGS AND HAD 3 MORE TO GO), AND I WAS SO INTENT ON KEEPING MY FO ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW THAT I ALMOST SLID INTO THE DITCH. I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY OTHER THAN LISTEN UP. WITH QUICK TURNS AND A SCHEDULE TO KEEP THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TIME TO DEBRIEF AND REBRIEF EVERYTHING BTWN FLTS. MY FO WAS A GOOD PLT BUT NEW TO AIRLINE OPS AND AS SUCH WAS GENERALLY CLUELESS. AT CERTAIN CRITICAL TIMES, I FOUND MYSELF INSTRUCTING RATHER THAN RUNNING A COHESIVE CREW. I GUESS I NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR RECTAL CRANIAL INSERTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.