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Attributes | |
ACN | 215067 |
Time | |
Date | 199207 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : enw |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mke artcc : zid |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 215067 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Student became argumentative on the initial segment of the approach. At the same time, ATC said to maintain 4000 until procedure turn inbound. I then began my descent to procedure turn altitude not realizing my mistake until I reached 3000. Lesson learned -- don't argue with a student while in the air. In fact, don't every argue with a student. Flight should have been terminated prior to the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT INSTRUCTOR ALLOWED TRAINEE TO DSND BELOW ALT TO WHICH CLRED.
Narrative: STUDENT BECAME ARGUMENTATIVE ON THE INITIAL SEGMENT OF THE APCH. AT THE SAME TIME, ATC SAID TO MAINTAIN 4000 UNTIL PROC TURN INBOUND. I THEN BEGAN MY DSCNT TO PROC TURN ALT NOT REALIZING MY MISTAKE UNTIL I REACHED 3000. LESSON LEARNED -- DON'T ARGUE WITH A STUDENT WHILE IN THE AIR. IN FACT, DON'T EVERY ARGUE WITH A STUDENT. FLT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TERMINATED PRIOR TO THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.