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Attributes | |
ACN | 215735 |
Time | |
Date | 199207 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : den |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : handoff position |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 11 |
ASRS Report | 215735 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
On wed, 7/92, at approximately AM15 local, both the main and standby VHF transmitters failed, during 'heavy' traffic (17-21 aircraft on frequency). Safety was compromised when a clearance to 'turn right' for traffic was not acknowledge. The affected sector (33) attempted backup transmitter, which also failed. The situation was complicated by training in progress, and was allowed to continue too long. There are procedures and some training for lost communications with a single aircraft, but there is no training for line traffic other than when it happens on the job, for employees including first and second line supervisors. There are any number of solutions that have been suggested over the yrs. I suppose the saying is true that action is taken only after safety is compromised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MAIN AND STANDBY XMITTERS FAIL WHILE CTLR HAS HVY TFC ON FREQ. NO LOSS OF SEPARATION.
Narrative: ON WED, 7/92, AT APPROX AM15 LCL, BOTH THE MAIN AND STANDBY VHF XMITTERS FAILED, DURING 'HVY' TFC (17-21 ACFT ON FREQ). SAFETY WAS COMPROMISED WHEN A CLRNC TO 'TURN R' FOR TFC WAS NOT ACKNOWLEDGE. THE AFFECTED SECTOR (33) ATTEMPTED BACKUP XMITTER, WHICH ALSO FAILED. THE SITUATION WAS COMPLICATED BY TRAINING IN PROGRESS, AND WAS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TOO LONG. THERE ARE PROCS AND SOME TRAINING FOR LOST COMS WITH A SINGLE ACFT, BUT THERE IS NO TRAINING FOR LINE TFC OTHER THAN WHEN IT HAPPENS ON THE JOB, FOR EMPLOYEES INCLUDING FIRST AND SECOND LINE SUPVRS. THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED OVER THE YRS. I SUPPOSE THE SAYING IS TRUE THAT ACTION IS TAKEN ONLY AFTER SAFETY IS COMPROMISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.