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Attributes | |
ACN | 217571 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pvg |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 10 agl bound upper : 15 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 55 flight time total : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 217571 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 2 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was conducting helicopter qualification training with mr X at pvg near suffolk, va, when we experienced a near miss incident on runway 02 with student pilot. Mr Y, who was on his first supervised solo in small aircraft from the local flying club. We had been in the traffic pattern for approximately 20 mins when the incident occurred. Our initial entry to the pattern was at a 45 degree angle on a right downwind for runway 02. Traffic patterns were conducted using right hand traffic to avoid the flow of fixed wing operations. Announcements were made on the CTAF for entry and each subsequent takeoff, crosswind, downwind, base, and final approach leg. The instruction period was concentrated on normal shallow and steep approachs and standard helicopter traffic pattern work. Mr X was showing a tendency to under arc (undershoot) his approachs and I was on the controls demonstrating a normal approach to a hover. We were using 300 ft AGL for crosswind turns, 500 ft AGL for downwind, 300 ft AGL for base and initiating the approach from 300 ft AGL on approximately an 8-10 degree angle. At approximately 10 ft above the approach to a hover, we observed the propeller and engine cowling of small aircraft emerging from under our ft through the helicopter chin bubble. Apparently, mr Y had landed behind us and passed directly under the helicopter at a good clip as I observed smoke coming from the brakes further down the runway. I instinctively terminated at a high hover when I caught movement under me and moved off the runway to the east side and onto the grass. As mr Y taxied back to the ramp, I got his tail number. He stopped on the ramp and an individual came forward and got in the aircraft with him. I then called his tail number on CTAF, got a response and asked him to shut down so that we could discuss the issue. Mr Y indicated to me that he did not see me on the runway and that he was having trouble with is headset. The other individual idented himself as an instructor and indicated that mr Y was on his first supervised solo flight and that he would have the headset checked. We then discussed collision avoidance and departed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HELI ON APCH TO HOVER SEES SMA BENEATH ON LNDG. MOVES TO SIDE OVER GRASS. NMAC.
Narrative: I WAS CONDUCTING HELI QUALIFICATION TRAINING WITH MR X AT PVG NEAR SUFFOLK, VA, WHEN WE EXPERIENCED A NEAR MISS INCIDENT ON RWY 02 WITH STUDENT PLT. MR Y, WHO WAS ON HIS FIRST SUPERVISED SOLO IN SMA FROM THE LCL FLYING CLUB. WE HAD BEEN IN THE TFC PATTERN FOR APPROX 20 MINS WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED. OUR INITIAL ENTRY TO THE PATTERN WAS AT A 45 DEG ANGLE ON A R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 02. TFC PATTERNS WERE CONDUCTED USING R HAND TFC TO AVOID THE FLOW OF FIXED WING OPS. ANNOUNCEMENTS WERE MADE ON THE CTAF FOR ENTRY AND EACH SUBSEQUENT TKOF, XWIND, DOWNWIND, BASE, AND FINAL APCH LEG. THE INSTRUCTION PERIOD WAS CONCENTRATED ON NORMAL SHALLOW AND STEEP APCHS AND STANDARD HELI TFC PATTERN WORK. MR X WAS SHOWING A TENDENCY TO UNDER ARC (UNDERSHOOT) HIS APCHS AND I WAS ON THE CTLS DEMONSTRATING A NORMAL APCH TO A HOVER. WE WERE USING 300 FT AGL FOR XWIND TURNS, 500 FT AGL FOR DOWNWIND, 300 FT AGL FOR BASE AND INITIATING THE APCH FROM 300 FT AGL ON APPROX AN 8-10 DEG ANGLE. AT APPROX 10 FT ABOVE THE APCH TO A HOVER, WE OBSERVED THE PROP AND ENG COWLING OF SMA EMERGING FROM UNDER OUR FT THROUGH THE HELI CHIN BUBBLE. APPARENTLY, MR Y HAD LANDED BEHIND US AND PASSED DIRECTLY UNDER THE HELI AT A GOOD CLIP AS I OBSERVED SMOKE COMING FROM THE BRAKES FURTHER DOWN THE RWY. I INSTINCTIVELY TERMINATED AT A HIGH HOVER WHEN I CAUGHT MOVEMENT UNDER ME AND MOVED OFF THE RWY TO THE E SIDE AND ONTO THE GRASS. AS MR Y TAXIED BACK TO THE RAMP, I GOT HIS TAIL NUMBER. HE STOPPED ON THE RAMP AND AN INDIVIDUAL CAME FORWARD AND GOT IN THE ACFT WITH HIM. I THEN CALLED HIS TAIL NUMBER ON CTAF, GOT A RESPONSE AND ASKED HIM TO SHUT DOWN SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS THE ISSUE. MR Y INDICATED TO ME THAT HE DID NOT SEE ME ON THE RWY AND THAT HE WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH IS HEADSET. THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL IDENTED HIMSELF AS AN INSTRUCTOR AND INDICATED THAT MR Y WAS ON HIS FIRST SUPERVISED SOLO FLT AND THAT HE WOULD HAVE THE HEADSET CHKED. WE THEN DISCUSSED COLLISION AVOIDANCE AND DEPARTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.