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Attributes | |
ACN | 218498 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : o45 |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 300 agl bound upper : 300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 835 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 218498 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
This describes a typical hazard at uncontrolled airport. Student pilot and me (CFI acting as PIC) announced several times position in traffic pattern (45 to downwind, downwind midfield) and downwind base turn. We also heard an small aircraft announcing a crossing leg entry when on downwind and assumed him behind us as #2. We extended downwind for 1 departure (we announced this as well) and then called our base turn. Just when I called 1/2 mi final, the small aircraft did the same and appeared from a short approach position from the right rapidly descending and converging. I pulled up and to the left to avoid collision. It appeared from the following conversation that the small aircraft never saw us. The pilot was confused and went around and we completed an uneventful landing. Moral: 1) people have to listen not only to talk of uncontrolled field. 2) keep eyes open and head swiveling. 3) be extra cautious if you hear an small aircraft in VFR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH SPI HAS NMAC ON FINAL WITH SMA AT UNCTLED ARPT.
Narrative: THIS DESCRIBES A TYPICAL HAZARD AT UNCTLED ARPT. STUDENT PLT AND ME (CFI ACTING AS PIC) ANNOUNCED SEVERAL TIMES POS IN TFC PATTERN (45 TO DOWNWIND, DOWNWIND MIDFIELD) AND DOWNWIND BASE TURN. WE ALSO HEARD AN SMA ANNOUNCING A XING LEG ENTRY WHEN ON DOWNWIND AND ASSUMED HIM BEHIND US AS #2. WE EXTENDED DOWNWIND FOR 1 DEP (WE ANNOUNCED THIS AS WELL) AND THEN CALLED OUR BASE TURN. JUST WHEN I CALLED 1/2 MI FINAL, THE SMA DID THE SAME AND APPEARED FROM A SHORT APCH POS FROM THE R RAPIDLY DSNDING AND CONVERGING. I PULLED UP AND TO THE L TO AVOID COLLISION. IT APPEARED FROM THE FOLLOWING CONVERSATION THAT THE SMA NEVER SAW US. THE PLT WAS CONFUSED AND WENT AROUND AND WE COMPLETED AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG. MORAL: 1) PEOPLE HAVE TO LISTEN NOT ONLY TO TALK OF UNCTLED FIELD. 2) KEEP EYES OPEN AND HEAD SWIVELING. 3) BE EXTRA CAUTIOUS IF YOU HEAR AN SMA IN VFR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.