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2 smas had an near midair collision in the los angeles special flight rules area. Both aircraft were flying nwbound at 4500 ft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 218912 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199208 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : smo |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 360 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 218912 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 150 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The student made a position report on the CTAF prior to intercepting the smo radial. (Approximately 1-2 mins prior). We heard no other reports on the CTAF. As we were turning to 312 degree heading, I saw an small aircraft become visible from under our left wing. I assisted the student's turn to climb us up and away from the small aircraft. At that point, the small aircraft must have seen us, because he pushed the nose over and dove away. He later took up a position level with us and a few hundred ft to our right rear. If time, workload, and equipment permits an advisory from coast TRACON as to other aircraft heading towards the sfra would be helpful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 SMAS HAD AN NMAC IN THE LOS ANGELES SPECIAL FLT RULES AREA. BOTH ACFT WERE FLYING NWBOUND AT 4500 FT.
Narrative: THE STUDENT MADE A POS RPT ON THE CTAF PRIOR TO INTERCEPTING THE SMO RADIAL. (APPROX 1-2 MINS PRIOR). WE HEARD NO OTHER RPTS ON THE CTAF. AS WE WERE TURNING TO 312 DEG HDG, I SAW AN SMA BECOME VISIBLE FROM UNDER OUR L WING. I ASSISTED THE STUDENT'S TURN TO CLB US UP AND AWAY FROM THE SMA. AT THAT POINT, THE SMA MUST HAVE SEEN US, BECAUSE HE PUSHED THE NOSE OVER AND DOVE AWAY. HE LATER TOOK UP A POS LEVEL WITH US AND A FEW HUNDRED FT TO OUR R REAR. IF TIME, WORKLOAD, AND EQUIP PERMITS AN ADVISORY FROM COAST TRACON AS TO OTHER ACFT HDG TOWARDS THE SFRA WOULD BE HELPFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.