Instructor with commercial pilot candidate at controls runs off end of runway.

Attributes
ACN	220018
Time
Date	199208
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : 07n
State Reference	PA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	landing other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 950 flight time type : 30
ASRS Report	220018
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Commercial pilot candidate flying in left seat. Landing at short turf field. Because of crosswind and necessary slip, instructor as PIC misjudged landing and allowed it to continue. Touchdown was normal but too far down runway and at slightly high airspeed. Both pilots applied brake, but airplane rolled approximately 6 ft into cornfield at end of runway. Minor paint damage only. Airplane checked by mechanic and flown out ok. A better understanding/coordination of student and pilot might have kept situation from happening. Instructor should encourage student to take assertive action (in this case, go around) if in student's judgement landing can't be made safely. In this case instructor's judgement of landing was faulty and student who was flying had a better 'feel' for how landing was proceeding but was influenced by instructor to continue.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH COMMERCIAL PLT CANDIDATE AT CTLS RUNS OFF END OF RWY.

Narrative: COMMERCIAL PLT CANDIDATE FLYING IN L SEAT. LNDG AT SHORT TURF FIELD. BECAUSE OF XWIND AND NECESSARY SLIP, INSTRUCTOR AS PIC MISJUDGED LNDG AND ALLOWED IT TO CONTINUE. TOUCHDOWN WAS NORMAL BUT TOO FAR DOWN RWY AND AT SLIGHTLY HIGH AIRSPD. BOTH PLTS APPLIED BRAKE, BUT AIRPLANE ROLLED APPROX 6 FT INTO CORNFIELD AT END OF RWY. MINOR PAINT DAMAGE ONLY. AIRPLANE CHKED BY MECH AND FLOWN OUT OK. A BETTER UNDERSTANDING/COORD OF STUDENT AND PLT MIGHT HAVE KEPT SITUATION FROM HAPPENING. INSTRUCTOR SHOULD ENCOURAGE STUDENT TO TAKE ASSERTIVE ACTION (IN THIS CASE, GAR) IF IN STUDENT'S JUDGEMENT LNDG CAN'T BE MADE SAFELY. IN THIS CASE INSTRUCTOR'S JUDGEMENT OF LNDG WAS FAULTY AND STUDENT WHO WAS FLYING HAD A BETTER 'FEEL' FOR HOW LNDG WAS PROCEEDING BUT WAS INFLUENCED BY INSTRUCTOR TO CONTINUE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.