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Attributes | |
ACN | 220905 |
Time | |
Date | 199209 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : birk |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : bird |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 146 flight time total : 6521 flight time type : 168 |
ASRS Report | 220905 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 220844 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1600 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X route of flight was from efhk dct vti UG5 rus dct sun dct osd dct trm dct 65n000w random dct 65n010w dct 66n020w dct 67n030w dct 67n040w dct 66n050w dct 63n060w dct fassa NA362 mt J574 yul dct alb J37 ign IGN6 jfk. We were cleared to maintain FL350. Prior to 65n000w, trm radio asked if could maintain FL370. We answered we were too heavy. We were then told to descend to FL330. We acknowledged and descended to FL330. We were then selcaled by iceland radio on HF and asked to confirm we were at FL330. We confirmed we were level at FL330. We then passed 65n000w. A few mins prior to crossing 65n010w (crossed at XA25Z) we received a report on iceland radio frequency 127.85. Air carrier Y was reporting a near miss with air carrier aircraft at FL330. During the discussion with air carrier Y we discovered the near miss was with us. Air carrier Y departed dusseldorf and was preceding to edmonton, ca, and then on to lax. His route of flight that conflicted with ours was from lirki (61n00151w) to 66n010w. He reported he saw us at his 1 O'clock position. He turned to his right to pass behind us. He reported passing 500 meters behind us. The near miss occurred at N6504/W0814. This occurrence appears to have been caused by mis-communication between 2 ATC facilities that allowed 2 aircraft to depart their airspace at the same fl on convergent flight paths.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LTSS FROM ACR Y UNDER OCEANIC CTL. EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X RTE OF FLT WAS FROM EFHK DCT VTI UG5 RUS DCT SUN DCT OSD DCT TRM DCT 65N000W RANDOM DCT 65N010W DCT 66N020W DCT 67N030W DCT 67N040W DCT 66N050W DCT 63N060W DCT FASSA NA362 MT J574 YUL DCT ALB J37 IGN IGN6 JFK. WE WERE CLRED TO MAINTAIN FL350. PRIOR TO 65N000W, TRM RADIO ASKED IF COULD MAINTAIN FL370. WE ANSWERED WE WERE TOO HVY. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO DSND TO FL330. WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND DSNDED TO FL330. WE WERE THEN SELCALED BY ICELAND RADIO ON HF AND ASKED TO CONFIRM WE WERE AT FL330. WE CONFIRMED WE WERE LEVEL AT FL330. WE THEN PASSED 65N000W. A FEW MINS PRIOR TO XING 65N010W (CROSSED AT XA25Z) WE RECEIVED A RPT ON ICELAND RADIO FREQ 127.85. ACR Y WAS RPTING A NEAR MISS WITH ACR ACFT AT FL330. DURING THE DISCUSSION WITH ACR Y WE DISCOVERED THE NEAR MISS WAS WITH US. ACR Y DEPARTED DUSSELDORF AND WAS PRECEDING TO EDMONTON, CA, AND THEN ON TO LAX. HIS RTE OF FLT THAT CONFLICTED WITH OURS WAS FROM LIRKI (61N00151W) TO 66N010W. HE RPTED HE SAW US AT HIS 1 O'CLOCK POS. HE TURNED TO HIS R TO PASS BEHIND US. HE RPTED PASSING 500 METERS BEHIND US. THE NEAR MISS OCCURRED AT N6504/W0814. THIS OCCURRENCE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY MIS-COM BTWN 2 ATC FACILITIES THAT ALLOWED 2 ACFT TO DEPART THEIR AIRSPACE AT THE SAME FL ON CONVERGENT FLT PATHS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.