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Attributes | |
ACN | 222390 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 222390 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 222591 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
When cleared into position to hold, first officer informed me that he did not acknowledge an ATC clearance. I asked him to confirm the squawk, which he did, and set it in the transponder. I then elected to depart and follow the standard SID. After airborne, I instructed first officer to confirm route of flight, which he did, and we continued to our destination, gso. I called the tower personnel in clt and asked if there was anyway that they would know that a crew had received the ATC clearance via pre departure clearance. They said that, at the present time, there was no back-up. They assumed when a flight called for taxi that they had their clearance. A solution might be to require the crew to readback squawk when they called for taxi, i.e., company flight number taxi with alpha squawk wxyz.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MLG ACR TOOK OFF WITHOUT HAVING AN ENRTE CLRNC. THEY WERE OPERATING AT AN ARPT WITH PRE-DEP CLRNC WITH NO REQUIREMENT FOR THE AIRCREW TO READBACK OR ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR ENRTE CLRNC.
Narrative: WHEN CLRED INTO POS TO HOLD, FO INFORMED ME THAT HE DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE AN ATC CLRNC. I ASKED HIM TO CONFIRM THE SQUAWK, WHICH HE DID, AND SET IT IN THE TRANSPONDER. I THEN ELECTED TO DEPART AND FOLLOW THE STANDARD SID. AFTER AIRBORNE, I INSTRUCTED FO TO CONFIRM RTE OF FLT, WHICH HE DID, AND WE CONTINUED TO OUR DEST, GSO. I CALLED THE TWR PERSONNEL IN CLT AND ASKED IF THERE WAS ANYWAY THAT THEY WOULD KNOW THAT A CREW HAD RECEIVED THE ATC CLRNC VIA PDC. THEY SAID THAT, AT THE PRESENT TIME, THERE WAS NO BACK-UP. THEY ASSUMED WHEN A FLT CALLED FOR TAXI THAT THEY HAD THEIR CLRNC. A SOLUTION MIGHT BE TO REQUIRE THE CREW TO READBACK SQUAWK WHEN THEY CALLED FOR TAXI, I.E., COMPANY FLT NUMBER TAXI WITH ALPHA SQUAWK WXYZ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.