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Attributes | |
ACN | 223789 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pub |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11500 msl bound upper : 11500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | military facility : fcs tracon : pub |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : pub |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Fighter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 11 controller radar : 15 |
ASRS Report | 223789 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : exit conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
An small transport X was inbound to land at pueblo. When over stano intersection he reported a near midair collision with a flight of military aircraft. He stated they passed 50 ft below him. I advised I did see the target at that time, however, they should be below 8500. Then the mode C came up at 11400 ft. The aircraft turned out to be 2 fgt Y's that had spilled out of R2601 and air burst MOA. A shout line between pueblo approach and the range control would be helpful. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states that aircraft he was working was an small transport who was approximately 4 mi south of the restr area when the near midair collision occurred. The aircraft was on a radar vector to publication. The 2 military aircraft went about 5-10 mi outside the restr area before turning around and reentering. The military flight leader later stated that the small transport was never in sight, but his wingman had him in sight. An near midair collision was filed by the small transport pilot. The military flight was not showing up on radar. Reporter also stated that spillouts are not a common occurrence. The shout down line recommended in his report would just speed up other coordination with range control. They have to dial a 2 digit number now to contact them. Response time is ok, so don't know why the request for a shout down line is needed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 MIL FGT'S SPILL OUT OF RESTRICTED AIRSPACE AND CAUSE AN NMAC WITH AN IFR SMT.
Narrative: AN SMT X WAS INBOUND TO LAND AT PUEBLO. WHEN OVER STANO INTXN HE RPTED A NEAR MIDAIR COLLISION WITH A FLT OF MIL ACFT. HE STATED THEY PASSED 50 FT BELOW HIM. I ADVISED I DID SEE THE TARGET AT THAT TIME, HOWEVER, THEY SHOULD BE BELOW 8500. THEN THE MODE C CAME UP AT 11400 FT. THE ACFT TURNED OUT TO BE 2 FGT Y'S THAT HAD SPILLED OUT OF R2601 AND AIR BURST MOA. A SHOUT LINE BTWN PUEBLO APCH AND THE RANGE CTL WOULD BE HELPFUL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THAT ACFT HE WAS WORKING WAS AN SMT WHO WAS APPROX 4 MI S OF THE RESTR AREA WHEN THE NMAC OCCURRED. THE ACFT WAS ON A RADAR VECTOR TO PUB. THE 2 MIL ACFT WENT ABOUT 5-10 MI OUTSIDE THE RESTR AREA BEFORE TURNING AROUND AND REENTERING. THE MIL FLT LEADER LATER STATED THAT THE SMT WAS NEVER IN SIGHT, BUT HIS WINGMAN HAD HIM IN SIGHT. AN NMAC WAS FILED BY THE SMT PLT. THE MIL FLT WAS NOT SHOWING UP ON RADAR. RPTR ALSO STATED THAT SPILLOUTS ARE NOT A COMMON OCCURRENCE. THE SHOUT DOWN LINE RECOMMENDED IN HIS RPT WOULD JUST SPD UP OTHER COORD WITH RANGE CTL. THEY HAVE TO DIAL A 2 DIGIT NUMBER NOW TO CONTACT THEM. RESPONSE TIME IS OK, SO DON'T KNOW WHY THE REQUEST FOR A SHOUT DOWN LINE IS NEEDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.