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Attributes | |
ACN | 225518 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : edw |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : edw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 14 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 225518 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : exit non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : exited penetrated airspace flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Operating in R2508. IRS/FMS navigation from N36 degrees 40.0 mins to W118 degrees 20.0 mins to N36 degrees 40.0 mins to W117 degrees 15.0 mins, mach .78, FL370, under positive control 'joshua' radar. At 117 degrees 15.0 mins west, I initiated a left turn, 25 degree bank, to reverse course. Approximately 1/4 through the 180 degree turn, 'joshua' called and said 'border, 3 (or 4) mi.' I disconnected the autoplt and steepened the turn to 45 degrees bank. We still departed the R2508 complex by 1 mi or less. No traffic involvement. A turn at that location should have given ample border clearance. Wind at 35000 ft was approximately 80-90 KTS from 270 degrees, which obviously contributed. Solution: move the turn point 3 mi west. I will initiate this at our location. A right turn also would have solved the problem due to the angle of the boundary line.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FACTORY TEST PLT, IN AN MLG, FLEW OUT OF THE EDWARDS TEST AREA NEAR J92.
Narrative: OPERATING IN R2508. IRS/FMS NAV FROM N36 DEGS 40.0 MINS TO W118 DEGS 20.0 MINS TO N36 DEGS 40.0 MINS TO W117 DEGS 15.0 MINS, MACH .78, FL370, UNDER POSITIVE CTL 'JOSHUA' RADAR. AT 117 DEGS 15.0 MINS W, I INITIATED A L TURN, 25 DEG BANK, TO REVERSE COURSE. APPROX 1/4 THROUGH THE 180 DEG TURN, 'JOSHUA' CALLED AND SAID 'BORDER, 3 (OR 4) MI.' I DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND STEEPENED THE TURN TO 45 DEGS BANK. WE STILL DEPARTED THE R2508 COMPLEX BY 1 MI OR LESS. NO TFC INVOLVEMENT. A TURN AT THAT LOCATION SHOULD HAVE GIVEN AMPLE BORDER CLRNC. WIND AT 35000 FT WAS APPROX 80-90 KTS FROM 270 DEGS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY CONTRIBUTED. SOLUTION: MOVE THE TURN POINT 3 MI W. I WILL INITIATE THIS AT OUR LOCATION. A R TURN ALSO WOULD HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM DUE TO THE ANGLE OF THE BOUNDARY LINE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.