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Attributes | |
ACN | 225608 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 225608 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were on a 190 degree heading at 4000 ft 8-10 mi out of iad being vectored for a runway 1L ILS approach at iad washington by an iad controller in IMC conditions. We were given a turn to 30 degrees to intercept the 1L localizer and descend to 3000 ft. It was a late turn. Our flight number was abc and the controller kept getting us mixed up with same air carrier acc. We passed through the localizer before we had even turned 90 degrees. We were at our company's maximum bank angle to intercept. We saw another aircraft on the TCASII turning into us. He was at our 11 O'clock position. We got a TA alert but due to IMC conditions we didn't see him. At 3300 ft altitude, we got an RA to climb at 2000 FPM and we complied. When we got the clear of conflict on the TCASII, we reported the deviation to ATC. They called the wrong flight number and air carrier acc told them it was us, air carrier abc. When we got the controller straight on the numbers, we were vectored for another approach. I feel there was not enough traffic separation and the controller should have recognized the dangerous situation developing and kept us apart from each other's flight path.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC USES WRONG CALL SIGN WHEN VECTORING, CAUSES TCASII RA.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A 190 DEG HDG AT 4000 FT 8-10 MI OUT OF IAD BEING VECTORED FOR A RWY 1L ILS APCH AT IAD WASHINGTON BY AN IAD CTLR IN IMC CONDITIONS. WE WERE GIVEN A TURN TO 30 DEGS TO INTERCEPT THE 1L LOC AND DSND TO 3000 FT. IT WAS A LATE TURN. OUR FLT NUMBER WAS ABC AND THE CTLR KEPT GETTING US MIXED UP WITH SAME ACR ACC. WE PASSED THROUGH THE LOC BEFORE WE HAD EVEN TURNED 90 DEGS. WE WERE AT OUR COMPANY'S MAX BANK ANGLE TO INTERCEPT. WE SAW ANOTHER ACFT ON THE TCASII TURNING INTO US. HE WAS AT OUR 11 O'CLOCK POS. WE GOT A TA ALERT BUT DUE TO IMC CONDITIONS WE DIDN'T SEE HIM. AT 3300 FT ALT, WE GOT AN RA TO CLB AT 2000 FPM AND WE COMPLIED. WHEN WE GOT THE CLR OF CONFLICT ON THE TCASII, WE RPTED THE DEV TO ATC. THEY CALLED THE WRONG FLT NUMBER AND ACR ACC TOLD THEM IT WAS US, ACR ABC. WHEN WE GOT THE CTLR STRAIGHT ON THE NUMBERS, WE WERE VECTORED FOR ANOTHER APCH. I FEEL THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TFC SEPARATION AND THE CTLR SHOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED THE DANGEROUS SITUATION DEVELOPING AND KEPT US APART FROM EACH OTHER'S FLT PATH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.