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Attributes | |
ACN | 225639 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sli |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 8825 flight time type : 2780 |
ASRS Report | 225693 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 225652 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We were climbing out of lax and given a 060 degree heading and told '060 degrees direct sli direct dag.' after tracking out of sli, we were questioned by ZLA 'where did we get that clearance.' if the captain misunderstood the proper clearance, he read it back to ZLA but it apparently did not get corrected. ZLA checked with the departure controller and told us it was all cleared up. The next plane behind us checked in on our frequency and stated 'we are going direct dag.' I think the second controller expected us to fly direct sli laxx 1 to dag. What we flew was sli direct dag as cleared by departure control.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT GIVEN CLRNC DIRECT BY DEP CTLR. CTR CTLR QUESTIONS HDG.
Narrative: WE WERE CLBING OUT OF LAX AND GIVEN A 060 DEG HDG AND TOLD '060 DEGS DIRECT SLI DIRECT DAG.' AFTER TRACKING OUT OF SLI, WE WERE QUESTIONED BY ZLA 'WHERE DID WE GET THAT CLRNC.' IF THE CAPT MISUNDERSTOOD THE PROPER CLRNC, HE READ IT BACK TO ZLA BUT IT APPARENTLY DID NOT GET CORRECTED. ZLA CHKED WITH THE DEP CTLR AND TOLD US IT WAS ALL CLRED UP. THE NEXT PLANE BEHIND US CHKED IN ON OUR FREQ AND STATED 'WE ARE GOING DIRECT DAG.' I THINK THE SECOND CTLR EXPECTED US TO FLY DIRECT SLI LAXX 1 TO DAG. WHAT WE FLEW WAS SLI DIRECT DAG AS CLRED BY DEP CTL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.