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Attributes | |
ACN | 225636 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lul |
State Reference | MS |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 238 msl bound upper : 2300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 225636 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was captain of an small transport aircraft. Were en route to lul, ms, level at 7000 ft. At this time, I determined that eaton VOR was OTS. This was confirmed by memphis center. With eaton OTS, the only remaining instrument approach was an NDB to the southeast. We were established on the inbound magnetic bearing of 137 degrees and approximately 30 NM out by use of LORAN and RNAV. ZHU cleared us to 2300 ft and for the approach. We were level at 2300 ft and on the bearing and IMC. The approach to lul required the procedure turn to be made to the west and within 10 NM of the beacon. At 10 NM, copilot called out 'you are cleared to 960 ft MSL.' normal descent to MDA and airport seen at 5.5 mi. Is a procedure turn required in this case? At the time, copilot and myself agreed we were established on the correct radial and were inside the 10 NM. If a procedure turn is required, then it should be noted on the approach plate. Use of LORAN information: it is almost universally accepted by pilots that LORAN information is to be used.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMT PLT MADE AN APCH USING A LORAN RNAV FIX WHEN NONE WAS SHOWN ON THE NDB APCH PROC.
Narrative: I WAS CAPT OF AN SMT ACFT. WERE ENRTE TO LUL, MS, LEVEL AT 7000 FT. AT THIS TIME, I DETERMINED THAT EATON VOR WAS OTS. THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY MEMPHIS CTR. WITH EATON OTS, THE ONLY REMAINING INST APCH WAS AN NDB TO THE SE. WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON THE INBOUND MAGNETIC BEARING OF 137 DEGS AND APPROX 30 NM OUT BY USE OF LORAN AND RNAV. ZHU CLRED US TO 2300 FT AND FOR THE APCH. WE WERE LEVEL AT 2300 FT AND ON THE BEARING AND IMC. THE APCH TO LUL REQUIRED THE PROC TURN TO BE MADE TO THE W AND WITHIN 10 NM OF THE BEACON. AT 10 NM, COPLT CALLED OUT 'YOU ARE CLRED TO 960 FT MSL.' NORMAL DSCNT TO MDA AND ARPT SEEN AT 5.5 MI. IS A PROC TURN REQUIRED IN THIS CASE? AT THE TIME, COPLT AND MYSELF AGREED WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON THE CORRECT RADIAL AND WERE INSIDE THE 10 NM. IF A PROC TURN IS REQUIRED, THEN IT SHOULD BE NOTED ON THE APCH PLATE. USE OF LORAN INFO: IT IS ALMOST UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED BY PLTS THAT LORAN INFO IS TO BE USED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.