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Attributes | |
ACN | 226167 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tcy |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3270 flight time type : 950 |
ASRS Report | 226167 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While in the tracy traffic pattern, my student and I were working initially with another small aircraft from our flight school. Another small aircraft X entered the traffic pattern, however, we did not hear his call up, as the CTAF frequency was very congested and I believe his call was 'blocked.' he entered the traffic pattern ahead of our aircraft but apparently flew a wide pattern. We did not see him in the haze and we continued around the pattern making the standard position reporting. As we turned final we heard small aircraft X too close and going around. After we landed the small aircraft X began an early crosswind turn and resumed his pattern work. Suggestions: clearly broadcast intentions and make a standard 45 degrees entry. Use landing light in pattern, especially with lowered visibility. Fly the standard traffic pattern, if making a wide pattern specify 'tracy traffic, XXXX wide downwind 29 tracy.' keep a constant watch for traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH SPI HAD CLOSE PROX WITH SECOND ACFT IN UNCTLED TFC PATTERN.
Narrative: WHILE IN THE TRACY TFC PATTERN, MY STUDENT AND I WERE WORKING INITIALLY WITH ANOTHER SMA FROM OUR FLT SCHOOL. ANOTHER SMA X ENTERED THE TFC PATTERN, HOWEVER, WE DID NOT HEAR HIS CALL UP, AS THE CTAF FREQ WAS VERY CONGESTED AND I BELIEVE HIS CALL WAS 'BLOCKED.' HE ENTERED THE TFC PATTERN AHEAD OF OUR ACFT BUT APPARENTLY FLEW A WIDE PATTERN. WE DID NOT SEE HIM IN THE HAZE AND WE CONTINUED AROUND THE PATTERN MAKING THE STANDARD POS RPTING. AS WE TURNED FINAL WE HEARD SMA X TOO CLOSE AND GOING AROUND. AFTER WE LANDED THE SMA X BEGAN AN EARLY XWIND TURN AND RESUMED HIS PATTERN WORK. SUGGESTIONS: CLRLY BROADCAST INTENTIONS AND MAKE A STANDARD 45 DEGS ENTRY. USE LNDG LIGHT IN PATTERN, ESPECIALLY WITH LOWERED VISIBILITY. FLY THE STANDARD TFC PATTERN, IF MAKING A WIDE PATTERN SPECIFY 'TRACY TFC, XXXX WIDE DOWNWIND 29 TRACY.' KEEP A CONSTANT WATCH FOR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.