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Attributes | |
ACN | 229409 |
Time | |
Date | 199212 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : l70 |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 12 flight time total : 525 flight time type : 60 |
ASRS Report | 229409 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 5 |
ASRS Report | 229408 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
A pleasure flight with no preplanned destination. I had in my possession a current los angeles sectional and a current western states 'flight guide.' I decided to land at agua dulce airpark, L70, for a short rest stop. Used CTAF, called unicom -- no answer. Could hear no other aircraft in pattern. Radio was working, I could hear aircraft in szp pattern. Runway was clear. After a short stop, returned uneventfully to home airport. In following days, discussed our flight with several fellow pilots and only one said that she thought that L70 was now closed on wkdays. I had found no sign of daytime closure in the flight guide or the la sectional. I checked the fap facilities directory and found no reference to L70 at all. The airport guide agrees with flight guide. I feel especially bad about being perhaps another nail in the coffin of an airport closure. The facility could perhaps use portable X's to mark the runway during the week or a very low power ATIS type transmission to worn off pilots. I believe terrain would mask a ground transmitter from facilities sharing that CTAF. I could probably read more closely the FAA newsletter 'socal pilot' assuming that this information was in it. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. The rptrs were advised of the airport status in regard to their private pleasure flight into a private unattended airport. Rptrs were concerned that the airport was officially closed even though there was no markings or listings in publications to this affect and that they would be in violation of the FARS. There has been no contact from the FAA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMA PVT ACFT LANDED AT A PVT UNATTENDED ARPT AND WAS TOLD BE A 'FRIEND' THE ARPT WAS CLOSED DURING WK DAYS.
Narrative: A PLEASURE FLT WITH NO PREPLANNED DEST. I HAD IN MY POSSESSION A CURRENT LOS ANGELES SECTIONAL AND A CURRENT WESTERN STATES 'FLT GUIDE.' I DECIDED TO LAND AT AGUA DULCE AIRPARK, L70, FOR A SHORT REST STOP. USED CTAF, CALLED UNICOM -- NO ANSWER. COULD HEAR NO OTHER ACFT IN PATTERN. RADIO WAS WORKING, I COULD HEAR ACFT IN SZP PATTERN. RWY WAS CLR. AFTER A SHORT STOP, RETURNED UNEVENTFULLY TO HOME ARPT. IN FOLLOWING DAYS, DISCUSSED OUR FLT WITH SEVERAL FELLOW PLTS AND ONLY ONE SAID THAT SHE THOUGHT THAT L70 WAS NOW CLOSED ON WKDAYS. I HAD FOUND NO SIGN OF DAYTIME CLOSURE IN THE FLT GUIDE OR THE LA SECTIONAL. I CHKED THE FAP FACILITIES DIRECTORY AND FOUND NO REF TO L70 AT ALL. THE ARPT GUIDE AGREES WITH FLT GUIDE. I FEEL ESPECIALLY BAD ABOUT BEING PERHAPS ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF AN ARPT CLOSURE. THE FACILITY COULD PERHAPS USE PORTABLE X'S TO MARK THE RWY DURING THE WK OR A VERY LOW PWR ATIS TYPE XMISSION TO WORN OFF PLTS. I BELIEVE TERRAIN WOULD MASK A GND XMITTER FROM FACILITIES SHARING THAT CTAF. I COULD PROBABLY READ MORE CLOSELY THE FAA NEWSLETTER 'SOCAL PLT' ASSUMING THAT THIS INFO WAS IN IT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. THE RPTRS WERE ADVISED OF THE ARPT STATUS IN REGARD TO THEIR PVT PLEASURE FLT INTO A PVT UNATTENDED ARPT. RPTRS WERE CONCERNED THAT THE ARPT WAS OFFICIALLY CLOSED EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO MARKINGS OR LISTINGS IN PUBLICATIONS TO THIS AFFECT AND THAT THEY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE FARS. THERE HAS BEEN NO CONTACT FROM THE FAA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.