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Attributes | |
ACN | 229986 |
Time | |
Date | 199301 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3300 msl bound upper : 4300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl tower : oma |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 229986 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe conflict : ground less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Phl approach gave us a final heading to intercept 27R ILS and clearance down to 3000 ft. Approach also pointed out small aircraft traffic at 12 O'clock and 2 mi, below us. Approach said the small aircraft had a visual on us, but we reported we did not see him. We then received a TA followed by an RA commanding an immediate 2500 FPM climb. We followed the RA and changed altitude from about 3300 ft to 4300 ft. Approach questioned us as to why we followed our RA when the small aircraft said he had us in sight. If the small aircraft did indeed have us in sight, he sure cut it a little close. Close enough to give us an RA requiring a very steep climb!!!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG REVERSES DSCNT AND CLBS WHEN A TCASII RA IS RECEIVED.
Narrative: PHL APCH GAVE US A FINAL HDG TO INTERCEPT 27R ILS AND CLRNC DOWN TO 3000 FT. APCH ALSO POINTED OUT SMA TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK AND 2 MI, BELOW US. APCH SAID THE SMA HAD A VISUAL ON US, BUT WE RPTED WE DID NOT SEE HIM. WE THEN RECEIVED A TA FOLLOWED BY AN RA COMMANDING AN IMMEDIATE 2500 FPM CLB. WE FOLLOWED THE RA AND CHANGED ALT FROM ABOUT 3300 FT TO 4300 FT. APCH QUESTIONED US AS TO WHY WE FOLLOWED OUR RA WHEN THE SMA SAID HE HAD US IN SIGHT. IF THE SMA DID INDEED HAVE US IN SIGHT, HE SURE CUT IT A LITTLE CLOSE. CLOSE ENOUGH TO GIVE US AN RA REQUIRING A VERY STEEP CLB!!!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.