Air carrier X in-flight encounter WX thunderstorm controller refused clearance deviation.

Attributes
ACN	230333
Time
Date	199301
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : mia
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : mia
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 14000
ASRS Report	230333
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Weather
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Air carrier X finally departed miami after a long ground delay due to thunderstorms in the area. After contact with mia departure control we were being issued headings which should put us on course. Everything was normal except the controller wanted to take me too close to the thunderstorm activity. After a short period of time there was a change of voice from the departure control frequency. The new controller issued a turn further to the left. I stated in a loud and clear voice, that this would take me into a known thunderstorm. The controller's reply was 'you can either fly through the thunderstorm or through the traffic.' I stated that we were going to make a 180 degree turn, but we were too close so we continued ahead. We encountered moderate turbulence and heavy rain. We were lucky this time. If this ever happens again I will declare an emergency and avoid the WX. The miami controller was the worst I have ever experienced. I think he needs to take a look at his operation.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR X INFLT ENCOUNTER WX TSTM CTLR REFUSED CLRNC DEV.

Narrative: ACR X FINALLY DEPARTED MIAMI AFTER A LONG GND DELAY DUE TO TSTMS IN THE AREA. AFTER CONTACT WITH MIA DEP CTL WE WERE BEING ISSUED HDGS WHICH SHOULD PUT US ON COURSE. EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL EXCEPT THE CTLR WANTED TO TAKE ME TOO CLOSE TO THE TSTM ACTIVITY. AFTER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THERE WAS A CHANGE OF VOICE FROM THE DEP CTL FREQ. THE NEW CTLR ISSUED A TURN FURTHER TO THE L. I STATED IN A LOUD AND CLR VOICE, THAT THIS WOULD TAKE ME INTO A KNOWN TSTM. THE CTLR'S REPLY WAS 'YOU CAN EITHER FLY THROUGH THE TSTM OR THROUGH THE TFC.' I STATED THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A 180 DEG TURN, BUT WE WERE TOO CLOSE SO WE CONTINUED AHEAD. WE ENCOUNTERED MODERATE TURB AND HVY RAIN. WE WERE LUCKY THIS TIME. IF THIS EVER HAPPENS AGAIN I WILL DECLARE AN EMER AND AVOID THE WX. THE MIAMI CTLR WAS THE WORST I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED. I THINK HE NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT HIS OP.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.