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Attributes | |
ACN | 232909 |
Time | |
Date | 199302 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sfo artcc : zkc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 232909 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
The company aircraft are equipped with an ACARS unit for communication with company. We also use this for pre-departure clearance to pick up our ATC clearance. This particular day, the unit was deferred and not in use. The captain and myself got concerned with WX and passenger problems and I forgot to pick up our ATC clearance (sfo-lax). Ground control said nothing and tower said nothing! Bay departure asked us to change our squawk and the flight to lax continued uneventfully. Since apparently there is no acknowledgement system after the clearance is received, then it's apparent that ATC has no idea if you copied the ATC clearance. Great system!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACARS UNIT OF DEFERRED MAINT. FLC DEPARTS WITHOUT PICKING UP PRE-DEP CLRNC.
Narrative: THE COMPANY ACFT ARE EQUIPPED WITH AN ACARS UNIT FOR COM WITH COMPANY. WE ALSO USE THIS FOR PRE-DEP CLRNC TO PICK UP OUR ATC CLRNC. THIS PARTICULAR DAY, THE UNIT WAS DEFERRED AND NOT IN USE. THE CAPT AND MYSELF GOT CONCERNED WITH WX AND PAX PROBS AND I FORGOT TO PICK UP OUR ATC CLRNC (SFO-LAX). GND CTL SAID NOTHING AND TWR SAID NOTHING! BAY DEP ASKED US TO CHANGE OUR SQUAWK AND THE FLT TO LAX CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY. SINCE APPARENTLY THERE IS NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SYS AFTER THE CLRNC IS RECEIVED, THEN IT'S APPARENT THAT ATC HAS NO IDEA IF YOU COPIED THE ATC CLRNC. GREAT SYS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.