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Attributes | |
ACN | 234297 |
Time | |
Date | 199302 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : fim airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : baf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 234297 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared to cross sadde at 12000. I told the captain that we were not going to make it. He went back to programming the FMC saying we were alright. We missed crossing by 1000 ft. We had been getting many changes in clearance and the arrival. The captain was upset and, before the incident, told me to get a phone number to call clearance when he got on the ground. The captain was upset, busy trying to program the FMC and didn't think much of my advice. Being new in an automated cockpit, I find that pilots are spending too much time playing with the computer in critical times rather than flying the aircraft. No one looks outside for traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG CREW FAILED TO MAKE ITS ASSIGNED ALT ON DSCNT.
Narrative: CLRED TO CROSS SADDE AT 12000. I TOLD THE CAPT THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. HE WENT BACK TO PROGRAMMING THE FMC SAYING WE WERE ALRIGHT. WE MISSED XING BY 1000 FT. WE HAD BEEN GETTING MANY CHANGES IN CLRNC AND THE ARR. THE CAPT WAS UPSET AND, BEFORE THE INCIDENT, TOLD ME TO GET A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL CLRNC WHEN HE GOT ON THE GND. THE CAPT WAS UPSET, BUSY TRYING TO PROGRAM THE FMC AND DIDN'T THINK MUCH OF MY ADVICE. BEING NEW IN AN AUTOMATED COCKPIT, I FIND THAT PLTS ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME PLAYING WITH THE COMPUTER IN CRITICAL TIMES RATHER THAN FLYING THE ACFT. NO ONE LOOKS OUTSIDE FOR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.