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Attributes | |
ACN | 234547 |
Time | |
Date | 199302 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl tower : iah |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 234547 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 143 flight time total : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 234395 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We arrived at the aircraft. Completed the preflight checks, initialed the ACARS, received the clearance via pre-departure clearance, set up the radios and briefed the departure. The fgt was then cancelled and we were to ferry to a new destination. A new release was attained, radios were reset and new departure brief done, more fuel added, takeoff alternate requested, deicing procedures reviewed, etc. We pushed off gate. Taxied to deicing pad via ground control clearance using our new flight number call sign. After waiting 2 hours to get deiced, we contacted ground control for taxi, then called tower for takeoff clearance. We were cleared for takeoff, switched over to departure. We contacted departure with our new call sign and they requested our squawk code and first fix. We replied with our squawk (which was our original squawk from our cancelled flight) and our new fix. ATC assigned a new squawk code. We asked if there was a problem with our clearance. ATC was not sure of our question, gave us a new frequency and said 'have a good day.' flight continued normally. After first flight was cancelled and new clearance was requested via ACARS pre-departure clearance, seems to be where the problem started. There were many distrs at this time and perhaps the ACARS was not received or we failed to see it. The ACARS was also being used to communicate to dispatch and keep abreast of destination WX and alternate WX which may have caused us to miss the clearance. Throughout communication with ATC, until departure, there was no verification of squawk code. It might be a good idea to verify squawk and current ATIS with initial ground control contact, or a squawk check on after start check may also prevent this type of problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER THEIR SCHEDULED FLT WAS CANCELED, FLC NEVER RECEIVED THE IFR CLRNC FOR THE FERRY FLT THEY WERE TO FLY.
Narrative: WE ARRIVED AT THE ACFT. COMPLETED THE PREFLT CHKS, INITIALED THE ACARS, RECEIVED THE CLRNC VIA PRE-DEP CLRNC, SET UP THE RADIOS AND BRIEFED THE DEP. THE FGT WAS THEN CANCELLED AND WE WERE TO FERRY TO A NEW DEST. A NEW RELEASE WAS ATTAINED, RADIOS WERE RESET AND NEW DEP BRIEF DONE, MORE FUEL ADDED, TKOF ALTERNATE REQUESTED, DEICING PROCS REVIEWED, ETC. WE PUSHED OFF GATE. TAXIED TO DEICING PAD VIA GND CTL CLRNC USING OUR NEW FLT NUMBER CALL SIGN. AFTER WAITING 2 HRS TO GET DEICED, WE CONTACTED GND CTL FOR TAXI, THEN CALLED TWR FOR TKOF CLRNC. WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF, SWITCHED OVER TO DEP. WE CONTACTED DEP WITH OUR NEW CALL SIGN AND THEY REQUESTED OUR SQUAWK CODE AND FIRST FIX. WE REPLIED WITH OUR SQUAWK (WHICH WAS OUR ORIGINAL SQUAWK FROM OUR CANCELLED FLT) AND OUR NEW FIX. ATC ASSIGNED A NEW SQUAWK CODE. WE ASKED IF THERE WAS A PROB WITH OUR CLRNC. ATC WAS NOT SURE OF OUR QUESTION, GAVE US A NEW FREQ AND SAID 'HAVE A GOOD DAY.' FLT CONTINUED NORMALLY. AFTER FIRST FLT WAS CANCELLED AND NEW CLRNC WAS REQUESTED VIA ACARS PRE-DEP CLRNC, SEEMS TO BE WHERE THE PROB STARTED. THERE WERE MANY DISTRS AT THIS TIME AND PERHAPS THE ACARS WAS NOT RECEIVED OR WE FAILED TO SEE IT. THE ACARS WAS ALSO BEING USED TO COMMUNICATE TO DISPATCH AND KEEP ABREAST OF DEST WX AND ALTERNATE WX WHICH MAY HAVE CAUSED US TO MISS THE CLRNC. THROUGHOUT COM WITH ATC, UNTIL DEP, THERE WAS NO VERIFICATION OF SQUAWK CODE. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO VERIFY SQUAWK AND CURRENT ATIS WITH INITIAL GND CTL CONTACT, OR A SQUAWK CHK ON AFTER START CHK MAY ALSO PREVENT THIS TYPE OF PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.