Conflict of medium large transport on departure and aircraft at 6000 ft.

Attributes
ACN	235062
Time
Date	199302
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : elp
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl bound lower : 6500 msl bound upper : 17000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : elp tower : lga
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	cruise other
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 5800
ASRS Report	235062
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 500
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

After takeoff from runway 26, turned to a heading of 200 degrees and cleared to climb to 17000 ft. Switched to departure. Departure called traffic at 1 O'clock, 4 mi, at 7000 ft. We had the target on the TCASII scope. Departure made 2 more calls, constant azimuth and decreasing range. I continued to monitor the TCASII while trying to acquire the traffic visually. The first officer was flying the airplane. We got the TA followed almost immediately by the RA. I took control of the aircraft and leveled off at 6500 ft. We both saw the traffic then pass directly overhead at about 500 ft. During this time departure knew as we did that we had constant azimuth and decreasing range and we were cleared to climb through his altitude. Even though the traffic was not under IFR control, I feel departure should have the responsibility to give us a vector for separation or told us to level at 6000 ft until clear of traffic. If not for TCASII, this could have resulted in a midair.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CONFLICT OF MLG ON DEP AND ACFT AT 6000 FT.

Narrative: AFTER TKOF FROM RWY 26, TURNED TO A HDG OF 200 DEGS AND CLRED TO CLB TO 17000 FT. SWITCHED TO DEP. DEP CALLED TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK, 4 MI, AT 7000 FT. WE HAD THE TARGET ON THE TCASII SCOPE. DEP MADE 2 MORE CALLS, CONSTANT AZIMUTH AND DECREASING RANGE. I CONTINUED TO MONITOR THE TCASII WHILE TRYING TO ACQUIRE THE TFC VISUALLY. THE FO WAS FLYING THE AIRPLANE. WE GOT THE TA FOLLOWED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY BY THE RA. I TOOK CTL OF THE ACFT AND LEVELED OFF AT 6500 FT. WE BOTH SAW THE TFC THEN PASS DIRECTLY OVERHEAD AT ABOUT 500 FT. DURING THIS TIME DEP KNEW AS WE DID THAT WE HAD CONSTANT AZIMUTH AND DECREASING RANGE AND WE WERE CLRED TO CLB THROUGH HIS ALT. EVEN THOUGH THE TFC WAS NOT UNDER IFR CTL, I FEEL DEP SHOULD HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE US A VECTOR FOR SEPARATION OR TOLD US TO LEVEL AT 6000 FT UNTIL CLR OF TFC. IF NOT FOR TCASII, THIS COULD HAVE RESULTED IN A MIDAIR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.