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Attributes | |
ACN | 235710 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : crg |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 27000 msl bound upper : 28300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : j53 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 14500 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 235710 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 16500 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Level at FL270. We were looking for FL330 or FL370 as our final cruising altitude. The frequency was very congested. We then received what we both thought to be a clearance to climb to FL330. I responded with a quick '330 (airline and flight number).' the first officer dialed FL330 into the altitude window. I confirmed to him the FL330 setting and he began to climb. At FL283 the jax controller asked us to say what our altitude was. I responded that we were out of FL283 for FL330. The controller then replied, 'descend to FL280 and turn left heading 330.' the first officer immediately descended to FL280 and I turned the aircraft to a 330 degree heading. When I turned the aircraft, I saw another aircraft ahead of us -- later we learned that it was the aircraft that we lost separation with -- going the same direction. It was level at FL290 and we had gotten to within about 2 1/2 - 3 mi of his tail. The controller then told us that his original clearance was to 'turn left to heading 330 vectors for climb.' we had both heard the clearance as a climb to FL330.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MISTAKING A VECTOR FOR A CLRNC TO CLB TO FL330, FLC LEFT THEIR ASSIGNED ALT OF 27000 FT.
Narrative: LEVEL AT FL270. WE WERE LOOKING FOR FL330 OR FL370 AS OUR FINAL CRUISING ALT. THE FREQ WAS VERY CONGESTED. WE THEN RECEIVED WHAT WE BOTH THOUGHT TO BE A CLRNC TO CLB TO FL330. I RESPONDED WITH A QUICK '330 (AIRLINE AND FLT NUMBER).' THE FO DIALED FL330 INTO THE ALT WINDOW. I CONFIRMED TO HIM THE FL330 SETTING AND HE BEGAN TO CLB. AT FL283 THE JAX CTLR ASKED US TO SAY WHAT OUR ALT WAS. I RESPONDED THAT WE WERE OUT OF FL283 FOR FL330. THE CTLR THEN REPLIED, 'DSND TO FL280 AND TURN L HDG 330.' THE FO IMMEDIATELY DSNDED TO FL280 AND I TURNED THE ACFT TO A 330 DEG HDG. WHEN I TURNED THE ACFT, I SAW ANOTHER ACFT AHEAD OF US -- LATER WE LEARNED THAT IT WAS THE ACFT THAT WE LOST SEPARATION WITH -- GOING THE SAME DIRECTION. IT WAS LEVEL AT FL290 AND WE HAD GOTTEN TO WITHIN ABOUT 2 1/2 - 3 MI OF HIS TAIL. THE CTLR THEN TOLD US THAT HIS ORIGINAL CLRNC WAS TO 'TURN L TO HDG 330 VECTORS FOR CLB.' WE HAD BOTH HEARD THE CLRNC AS A CLB TO FL330.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.