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Attributes | |
ACN | 236656 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iiu airport : sdf |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 6200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sdf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 236656 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The first officer was flying and I was working the radios. We were being vectored by approach control at sdf airport. We were given a vector to turn left from approximately east to north. The first officer rolled into approximately a 25 degree bank to the assigned heading. Also, he was at approximately 210 KTS which was the assigned speed, maneuvering speed for this aircraft at 154000 pounds is 200 KTS clean. This will give you a 30 degree bank with 15 degrees over bank protection or a total of 45 degrees of bank without setting off the stick shaker. While rolling out of the bank and passing 20 degrees of bank the stick shaker went on. The first officer made no corrections while he was trying to find the cause for stick shaker activation. I told him to make a standard recovery. He applied maximum thrust but started a climb. He did not compensate for the extra thrust and maintain level flight. The aircraft started a shallow climb and lost 10 KTS airspeed. The stick shaker continued. At this time I took control and started a descent. At 200 ft below assigned altitude the stick shaker stopped. I continued descent to 500 ft below altitude before climbing back to assigned altitude. I think an initial proper recovery would have prevented the altitude loss. Also, I think we had a false stick shaker. I wrote it up and maintenance is looking into the problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LGT FGT CREW GOT A STICK SHAKER WARNING AT NIGHT IN THE WX.
Narrative: THE FO WAS FLYING AND I WAS WORKING THE RADIOS. WE WERE BEING VECTORED BY APCH CTL AT SDF ARPT. WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR TO TURN L FROM APPROX E TO N. THE FO ROLLED INTO APPROX A 25 DEG BANK TO THE ASSIGNED HDG. ALSO, HE WAS AT APPROX 210 KTS WHICH WAS THE ASSIGNED SPD, MANEUVERING SPD FOR THIS ACFT AT 154000 LBS IS 200 KTS CLEAN. THIS WILL GIVE YOU A 30 DEG BANK WITH 15 DEGS OVER BANK PROTECTION OR A TOTAL OF 45 DEGS OF BANK WITHOUT SETTING OFF THE STICK SHAKER. WHILE ROLLING OUT OF THE BANK AND PASSING 20 DEGS OF BANK THE STICK SHAKER WENT ON. THE FO MADE NO CORRECTIONS WHILE HE WAS TRYING TO FIND THE CAUSE FOR STICK SHAKER ACTIVATION. I TOLD HIM TO MAKE A STANDARD RECOVERY. HE APPLIED MAX THRUST BUT STARTED A CLB. HE DID NOT COMPENSATE FOR THE EXTRA THRUST AND MAINTAIN LEVEL FLT. THE ACFT STARTED A SHALLOW CLB AND LOST 10 KTS AIRSPD. THE STICK SHAKER CONTINUED. AT THIS TIME I TOOK CTL AND STARTED A DSCNT. AT 200 FT BELOW ASSIGNED ALT THE STICK SHAKER STOPPED. I CONTINUED DSCNT TO 500 FT BELOW ALT BEFORE CLBING BACK TO ASSIGNED ALT. I THINK AN INITIAL PROPER RECOVERY WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE ALT LOSS. ALSO, I THINK WE HAD A FALSE STICK SHAKER. I WROTE IT UP AND MAINT IS LOOKING INTO THE PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.