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Attributes | |
ACN | 237968 |
Time | |
Date | 199304 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mgm |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 237968 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Taxiing for departure runway 27, ceiling 200 ft, overcast, light rain, fog, visibility 2 mi. I was unaware of an ILS hold short line in mgm and it was not clearly marked. I feel before mgm and FAA put the ILS hold short line into effect they should be properly prepared with bright hold lines on txwys and signs. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporting captain states that he received his airways clearance while taxiing out and was cleared for takeoff while taxiing. He heard a discussion of ILS hold short lines between another aircraft and the tower which made him think that he might have violated the hold short line as he didn't see it. He was expecting to see lighted signs as well as lines as at bna, his home base.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LTT HAD A PROB IDENTING A NEW ILS HOLD SHORT LINE AT MGM. THERE WAS RAIN AND FOG IN THIS EARLY MORNING INCIDENT.
Narrative: TAXIING FOR DEP RWY 27, CEILING 200 FT, OVCST, LIGHT RAIN, FOG, VISIBILITY 2 MI. I WAS UNAWARE OF AN ILS HOLD SHORT LINE IN MGM AND IT WAS NOT CLRLY MARKED. I FEEL BEFORE MGM AND FAA PUT THE ILS HOLD SHORT LINE INTO EFFECT THEY SHOULD BE PROPERLY PREPARED WITH BRIGHT HOLD LINES ON TXWYS AND SIGNS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTING CAPT STATES THAT HE RECEIVED HIS AIRWAYS CLRNC WHILE TAXIING OUT AND WAS CLRED FOR TKOF WHILE TAXIING. HE HEARD A DISCUSSION OF ILS HOLD SHORT LINES BTWN ANOTHER ACFT AND THE TWR WHICH MADE HIM THINK THAT HE MIGHT HAVE VIOLATED THE HOLD SHORT LINE AS HE DIDN'T SEE IT. HE WAS EXPECTING TO SEE LIGHTED SIGNS AS WELL AS LINES AS AT BNA, HIS HOME BASE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.