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Attributes | |
ACN | 238446 |
Time | |
Date | 199304 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 4800 |
ASRS Report | 238446 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 238379 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
We departed msp using normal procedures including flaps 15 degrees for takeoff. The flight was normal until extending flaps for lax. We could not move the flap lever past the 1 degree detent. We made missed approach and held to setup for a 0 degree flap landing. We attempted more extensions with no luck (retraction normal). We followed abnormal procedure in cockpit operating manual and landed on 25R lax with leading edge at takeoff and trailing edge 0 degrees. The 'dial-a-flap' dial was reported to be found slightly out of the up position restricting flap handle travel and flap extension. The dial may have been bumped sometime during flight. My experience is that the dial-a-flap is seldom used (I've used it once) and does not exist on our normal fleet of widebody transport's. Crew coordination during this incident was very good. The first officer flew the aircraft during holding and back to approach position for runway 25L (landed on runway 25R) while I went over procedures with the so. Plenty of time was allowed and no one felt rushed during the procedure. Unfortunately the abnormal procedures did not call for checking the position of the dial-a-flap dial. Adding this to the abnormal checklist should prevent this from happening again. I have contacted maintenance control many times about a problem or discrepancy not covered in our manuals. I didn't this time because we had a procedure to cover the situation in the cockpit operating manual. An extenuating problem was a tremendous amount of radio interference caused by bleed-through of all the other radios. The interference made it very difficult to understand radio and cockpit communications and made it necessary to clarify several xmissions. At approximately 2 mi out on final, the tower cleared another air carrier widebody transport across runway 25R for takeoff on runway 25L. They advised us to be cautious of wake turbulence from departure widebody transport. I felt this crossing and takeoff was inappropriate under the circumstances. An emergency was not declared but equipment was requested to stand by.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMER GND EQUIP CALLED OUT FOR ACR WDB NO FLAP APCH LNDG.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED MSP USING NORMAL PROCS INCLUDING FLAPS 15 DEGS FOR TKOF. THE FLT WAS NORMAL UNTIL EXTENDING FLAPS FOR LAX. WE COULD NOT MOVE THE FLAP LEVER PAST THE 1 DEG DETENT. WE MADE MISSED APCH AND HELD TO SETUP FOR A 0 DEG FLAP LNDG. WE ATTEMPTED MORE EXTENSIONS WITH NO LUCK (RETRACTION NORMAL). WE FOLLOWED ABNORMAL PROC IN COCKPIT OPERATING MANUAL AND LANDED ON 25R LAX WITH LEADING EDGE AT TKOF AND TRAILING EDGE 0 DEGS. THE 'DIAL-A-FLAP' DIAL WAS RPTED TO BE FOUND SLIGHTLY OUT OF THE UP POS RESTRICTING FLAP HANDLE TRAVEL AND FLAP EXTENSION. THE DIAL MAY HAVE BEEN BUMPED SOMETIME DURING FLT. MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT THE DIAL-A-FLAP IS SELDOM USED (I'VE USED IT ONCE) AND DOES NOT EXIST ON OUR NORMAL FLEET OF WDB'S. CREW COORD DURING THIS INCIDENT WAS VERY GOOD. THE FO FLEW THE ACFT DURING HOLDING AND BACK TO APCH POS FOR RWY 25L (LANDED ON RWY 25R) WHILE I WENT OVER PROCS WITH THE SO. PLENTY OF TIME WAS ALLOWED AND NO ONE FELT RUSHED DURING THE PROC. UNFORTUNATELY THE ABNORMAL PROCS DID NOT CALL FOR CHKING THE POS OF THE DIAL-A-FLAP DIAL. ADDING THIS TO THE ABNORMAL CHKLIST SHOULD PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. I HAVE CONTACTED MAINT CTL MANY TIMES ABOUT A PROB OR DISCREPANCY NOT COVERED IN OUR MANUALS. I DIDN'T THIS TIME BECAUSE WE HAD A PROC TO COVER THE SIT IN THE COCKPIT OPERATING MANUAL. AN EXTENUATING PROB WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RADIO INTERFERENCE CAUSED BY BLEED-THROUGH OF ALL THE OTHER RADIOS. THE INTERFERENCE MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND RADIO AND COCKPIT COMS AND MADE IT NECESSARY TO CLARIFY SEVERAL XMISSIONS. AT APPROX 2 MI OUT ON FINAL, THE TWR CLRED ANOTHER ACR WDB ACROSS RWY 25R FOR TKOF ON RWY 25L. THEY ADVISED US TO BE CAUTIOUS OF WAKE TURB FROM DEP WDB. I FELT THIS XING AND TKOF WAS INAPPROPRIATE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. AN EMER WAS NOT DECLARED BUT EQUIP WAS REQUESTED TO STAND BY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.