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Attributes | |
ACN | 240532 |
Time | |
Date | 199304 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mke |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mke tower : bos |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 1650 flight time type : 70 |
ASRS Report | 240532 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My captain was flying the approach into mke. The approach controller called the RVR was 1500 when we were 7 mi out. RVR for the approach was 2400. I advised the captain that if we began the approach we would be in violation of the FARS. He said 'it's my F_______ airplane, I'll take responsibility.' I repeated my warning to him that if we began the approach that we would be illegal. He said 'I'm the one that will get violated -- we are going to shoot the approach.' at this point, I decided it would be safer not to fight over the controls. To remedy this situation -- I have since left the company and put him on report to my old boss.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC CAPT BEGAN APCH KNOWING THE WX WAS BELOW MINIMUMS.
Narrative: MY CAPT WAS FLYING THE APCH INTO MKE. THE APCH CTLR CALLED THE RVR WAS 1500 WHEN WE WERE 7 MI OUT. RVR FOR THE APCH WAS 2400. I ADVISED THE CAPT THAT IF WE BEGAN THE APCH WE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE FARS. HE SAID 'IT'S MY F_______ AIRPLANE, I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.' I REPEATED MY WARNING TO HIM THAT IF WE BEGAN THE APCH THAT WE WOULD BE ILLEGAL. HE SAID 'I'M THE ONE THAT WILL GET VIOLATED -- WE ARE GOING TO SHOOT THE APCH.' AT THIS POINT, I DECIDED IT WOULD BE SAFER NOT TO FIGHT OVER THE CTLS. TO REMEDY THIS SIT -- I HAVE SINCE LEFT THE COMPANY AND PUT HIM ON RPT TO MY OLD BOSS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.