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Attributes | |
ACN | 241593 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bws |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 241593 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 241335 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was cruising at FL310 on J6 just west of bowling green, ky, VOR. Just as ZME was calling out traffic near our 12 O'clock position, a TA immediately followed by an RA to 'climb' was given by TCASII. I immediately initiated a climb and advised ATC I was climbing to avoid a conflict with the other aircraft but my call went unacknowledged. Upon reaching 31600 a 'clear of conflict' was given and a descent to 310 was initiated. Just then ATC asked us what our altitude was. We advised them we were at 31600 to avoid a conflict but were now descending back to 310. There was some uncertainty as to what altitude the other aircraft was at. We asked what was the altitude of the other aircraft and ATC said they would get back to us but they never did. We were soon handed off to the next controller. We estimate the 2 aircraft came within less than 1000 ft vertically and just under a mile of each other. Also, the other aircraft appeared to be climbing through our altitude as it passed in front of us. Supplemental information from acn 241335: air carrier Y was observed climbing crossing passing right to left on a possible collision course. The incident (RA) and altitude deviation was reported immediately to ZME. ZME indicated they would investigate and report the altitude. Later they stated they were still investigating, and would report to us. No further reports followed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR Y UNAUTH CLB THROUGH ASSIGNED ALT NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC HAD LTSS FROM ACR X. PLTDEV. POSSIBLE SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X WAS CRUISING AT FL310 ON J6 JUST W OF BOWLING GREEN, KY, VOR. JUST AS ZME WAS CALLING OUT TFC NEAR OUR 12 O'CLOCK POS, A TA IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY AN RA TO 'CLB' WAS GIVEN BY TCASII. I IMMEDIATELY INITIATED A CLB AND ADVISED ATC I WAS CLBING TO AVOID A CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER ACFT BUT MY CALL WENT UNACKNOWLEDGED. UPON REACHING 31600 A 'CLR OF CONFLICT' WAS GIVEN AND A DSCNT TO 310 WAS INITIATED. JUST THEN ATC ASKED US WHAT OUR ALT WAS. WE ADVISED THEM WE WERE AT 31600 TO AVOID A CONFLICT BUT WERE NOW DSNDING BACK TO 310. THERE WAS SOME UNCERTAINTY AS TO WHAT ALT THE OTHER ACFT WAS AT. WE ASKED WHAT WAS THE ALT OF THE OTHER ACFT AND ATC SAID THEY WOULD GET BACK TO US BUT THEY NEVER DID. WE WERE SOON HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR. WE ESTIMATE THE 2 ACFT CAME WITHIN LESS THAN 1000 FT VERTICALLY AND JUST UNDER A MILE OF EACH OTHER. ALSO, THE OTHER ACFT APPEARED TO BE CLBING THROUGH OUR ALT AS IT PASSED IN FRONT OF US. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 241335: ACR Y WAS OBSERVED CLBING XING PASSING R TO L ON A POSSIBLE COLLISION COURSE. THE INCIDENT (RA) AND ALTDEV WAS RPTED IMMEDIATELY TO ZME. ZME INDICATED THEY WOULD INVESTIGATE AND RPT THE ALT. LATER THEY STATED THEY WERE STILL INVESTIGATING, AND WOULD RPT TO US. NO FURTHER RPTS FOLLOWED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.