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Flight crew concern over being cleared for takeoff when initial climb would be over people working on a closed portion of the runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 241691 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199305 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bgr |
| State Reference | ME |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bgr artcc : zbw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14700 flight time type : 750 |
| ASRS Report | 241691 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
While taxiing out of bgr for runway 33 we were informed that the last 4000 ft of the runway was closed. This left us with just over 7000 ft of usable runway. We determined that this was well in excess of runway requirements for our takeoff, so we elected to depart. Tower cleared us for takeoff and advised of men and equipment on the closed portion of the runway. I find this procedure of allowing aircraft to depart while men and equipment are on the closed portion of the runway not prudent. I'm sure if this situation should occur again, I would refuse takeoff clearance. Even though the FAA tower allows this procedure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC CONCERN OVER BEING CLRED FOR TKOF WHEN INITIAL CLB WOULD BE OVER PEOPLE WORKING ON A CLOSED PORTION OF THE RWY.
Narrative: WHILE TAXIING OUT OF BGR FOR RWY 33 WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE LAST 4000 FT OF THE RWY WAS CLOSED. THIS LEFT US WITH JUST OVER 7000 FT OF USABLE RWY. WE DETERMINED THAT THIS WAS WELL IN EXCESS OF RWY REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR TKOF, SO WE ELECTED TO DEPART. TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF AND ADVISED OF MEN AND EQUIP ON THE CLOSED PORTION OF THE RWY. I FIND THIS PROC OF ALLOWING ACFT TO DEPART WHILE MEN AND EQUIP ARE ON THE CLOSED PORTION OF THE RWY NOT PRUDENT. I'M SURE IF THIS SIT SHOULD OCCUR AGAIN, I WOULD REFUSE TKOF CLRNC. EVEN THOUGH THE FAA TWR ALLOWS THIS PROC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.