Commuter aircraft on takeoff sights widebody transport which appears to be on end of runway.

Attributes
ACN	241853
Time
Date	199305
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	241853
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 500
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Flight jfk direct bdl, taking off runway 13R, an air carrier widebody transport 'appeared' to incur on my runway. I say appear because it was approximately 3 mi away. Runway 13R is over 14000 ft. We were at V1 and the decision was made to continue. We could not tell for certain whether or not he was in fact on our runway or beyond our runway, possibly on another taxiway. After we flew over the widebody transport we did in fact see him on our runway. He crossed at ja-J intersection. The tower said over to departure and before we went over, we questioned whether the widebody transport was in fact on our runway. The tower said 'negative, he was not on your runway.' I believe the tower should have advised us that the widebody transport was holding short for us. When the tower cleared us for takeoff he made no mention of the widebody transport.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: COMMUTER ACFT ON TKOF SIGHTS WDB WHICH APPEARS TO BE ON END OF RWY.

Narrative: FLT JFK DIRECT BDL, TAKING OFF RWY 13R, AN ACR WDB 'APPEARED' TO INCUR ON MY RWY. I SAY APPEAR BECAUSE IT WAS APPROX 3 MI AWAY. RWY 13R IS OVER 14000 FT. WE WERE AT V1 AND THE DECISION WAS MADE TO CONTINUE. WE COULD NOT TELL FOR CERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS IN FACT ON OUR RWY OR BEYOND OUR RWY, POSSIBLY ON ANOTHER TXWY. AFTER WE FLEW OVER THE WDB WE DID IN FACT SEE HIM ON OUR RWY. HE CROSSED AT JA-J INTXN. THE TWR SAID OVER TO DEP AND BEFORE WE WENT OVER, WE QUESTIONED WHETHER THE WDB WAS IN FACT ON OUR RWY. THE TWR SAID 'NEGATIVE, HE WAS NOT ON YOUR RWY.' I BELIEVE THE TWR SHOULD HAVE ADVISED US THAT THE WDB WAS HOLDING SHORT FOR US. WHEN THE TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF HE MADE NO MENTION OF THE WDB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.