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Attributes | |
ACN | 241854 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gcn |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 8200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tower : tyr |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 241854 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : vfr in imc inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was captain of an small transport flight that departed las, nv, in good VFR conditions. The grand canyon airport was also reporting VFR. We departed with a 1-WAY fuel load. Approximately 1 hour into the flight, on the sfar 50-2 'blue-1' air tour route at 7500 ft MSL, and just past our point of no return, east of mount dellenbaugh, we encountered increasing cloudiness, lowering ceilings, and reduced visibility, though it was still technically VFR. I requested PIREPS from 4 company aircraft also on the tour route, just mins ahead of us. I was repeatedly told that 'it's no problem, it's good VFR, and only minor deviations are necessary.' it was not. It not only got progressively worse, but we ended up in the clouds. I turned the aircraft toward lower terrain and climbed to VFR conditions on top of the lower scud, with ragged ceilings above, at 8200 ft MSL. I might have gone higher, except that company traffic was reported opposite direction on the 'reverse air tour' at 8500 ft MSL. By 40 NM wnw of grand canyon we were again legally VFR and proceeded without further incident. It is not my custom to get trapped like this, haphazardly, in marginal conditions with minimal fuel supplies. In the past, I have endured the scorn of management, dispatchers, and 'old time canyon pilots' for putting on extra fuel and having an IFR flight plan on file. But this situation was aggravated by the overly optimistic and misleading reports of other pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIR TOUR ACFT ENCOUNTERS WX, MUST AVOID BY CLBING ABOVE CLOUDS.
Narrative: I WAS CAPT OF AN SMT FLT THAT DEPARTED LAS, NV, IN GOOD VFR CONDITIONS. THE GRAND CANYON ARPT WAS ALSO RPTING VFR. WE DEPARTED WITH A 1-WAY FUEL LOAD. APPROX 1 HR INTO THE FLT, ON THE SFAR 50-2 'BLUE-1' AIR TOUR RTE AT 7500 FT MSL, AND JUST PAST OUR POINT OF NO RETURN, E OF MOUNT DELLENBAUGH, WE ENCOUNTERED INCREASING CLOUDINESS, LOWERING CEILINGS, AND REDUCED VISIBILITY, THOUGH IT WAS STILL TECHNICALLY VFR. I REQUESTED PIREPS FROM 4 COMPANY ACFT ALSO ON THE TOUR RTE, JUST MINS AHEAD OF US. I WAS REPEATEDLY TOLD THAT 'IT'S NO PROB, IT'S GOOD VFR, AND ONLY MINOR DEVS ARE NECESSARY.' IT WAS NOT. IT NOT ONLY GOT PROGRESSIVELY WORSE, BUT WE ENDED UP IN THE CLOUDS. I TURNED THE ACFT TOWARD LOWER TERRAIN AND CLBED TO VFR CONDITIONS ON TOP OF THE LOWER SCUD, WITH RAGGED CEILINGS ABOVE, AT 8200 FT MSL. I MIGHT HAVE GONE HIGHER, EXCEPT THAT COMPANY TFC WAS RPTED OPPOSITE DIRECTION ON THE 'REVERSE AIR TOUR' AT 8500 FT MSL. BY 40 NM WNW OF GRAND CANYON WE WERE AGAIN LEGALLY VFR AND PROCEEDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. IT IS NOT MY CUSTOM TO GET TRAPPED LIKE THIS, HAPHAZARDLY, IN MARGINAL CONDITIONS WITH MINIMAL FUEL SUPPLIES. IN THE PAST, I HAVE ENDURED THE SCORN OF MGMNT, DISPATCHERS, AND 'OLD TIME CANYON PLTS' FOR PUTTING ON EXTRA FUEL AND HAVING AN IFR FLT PLAN ON FILE. BUT THIS SIT WAS AGGRAVATED BY THE OVERLY OPTIMISTIC AND MISLEADING RPTS OF OTHER PLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.