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Attributes | |
ACN | 242352 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mmv |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise other ground : preflight |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zse |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 242352 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Provided pilot services to a company who had rented an aircraft from someone else. I do not have a part 135 certificate nor does the provider (operator) of the aircraft. Operator of the aircraft is convinced flight was not part 135 operation, however, I have obtained both legal and FAA opinion to the contrary after the flight. FAA opinion on sits such as this has changed considerably over the past 10 yrs. FAA needs to establish clearer and more distinct guidelines, and make these guidelines more available to pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VIOLATION OF FARS PART 135 IN PAX SVC FLT.
Narrative: PROVIDED PLT SVCS TO A COMPANY WHO HAD RENTED AN ACFT FROM SOMEONE ELSE. I DO NOT HAVE A PART 135 CERTIFICATE NOR DOES THE PROVIDER (OPERATOR) OF THE ACFT. OPERATOR OF THE ACFT IS CONVINCED FLT WAS NOT PART 135 OP, HOWEVER, I HAVE OBTAINED BOTH LEGAL AND FAA OPINION TO THE CONTRARY AFTER THE FLT. FAA OPINION ON SITS SUCH AS THIS HAS CHANGED CONSIDERABLY OVER THE PAST 10 YRS. FAA NEEDS TO ESTABLISH CLEARER AND MORE DISTINCT GUIDELINES, AND MAKE THESE GUIDELINES MORE AVAILABLE TO PLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.