Large transport was cleared for profile descent. Captain ignored 2 reminders and crossed civet 1000 ...

Attributes
ACN	242415
Time
Date	199305
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 19000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival : profile descent
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 35
ASRS Report	242415
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time type : 50
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were cleared for the civet profile descent at 19000 ft (level). We failed to change the altitude window on the MCP. The captain (PF) asked me to get the ATIS. While I was off, he expected VNAV to start the aircraft down. When it didn't, he did nothing. When I was finished with the ATIS, I realized we hadn't started down and were crossing civet at 19000 ft, 1000 ft high. I brought it to the captain's attention but he chose to make a PA at that time. When I tried again to point out our error, he answered a call from the flight attendant. Finally I said 'we gotta go down now!' and we started down. I am new on this aircraft (35 hours) as is the captain (50 hours). I don't feel the airlines should schedule crews this way.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: LGT WAS CLRED FOR PROFILE DSCNT. CAPT IGNORED 2 REMINDERS AND CROSSED CIVET 1000 FT HIGH.

Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR THE CIVET PROFILE DSCNT AT 19000 FT (LEVEL). WE FAILED TO CHANGE THE ALT WINDOW ON THE MCP. THE CAPT (PF) ASKED ME TO GET THE ATIS. WHILE I WAS OFF, HE EXPECTED VNAV TO START THE ACFT DOWN. WHEN IT DIDN'T, HE DID NOTHING. WHEN I WAS FINISHED WITH THE ATIS, I REALIZED WE HADN'T STARTED DOWN AND WERE XING CIVET AT 19000 FT, 1000 FT HIGH. I BROUGHT IT TO THE CAPT'S ATTN BUT HE CHOSE TO MAKE A PA AT THAT TIME. WHEN I TRIED AGAIN TO POINT OUT OUR ERROR, HE ANSWERED A CALL FROM THE FLT ATTENDANT. FINALLY I SAID 'WE GOTTA GO DOWN NOW!' AND WE STARTED DOWN. I AM NEW ON THIS ACFT (35 HRS) AS IS THE CAPT (50 HRS). I DON'T FEEL THE AIRLINES SHOULD SCHEDULE CREWS THIS WAY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Large transport was cleared for profile descent. Captain ignored 2 reminders and crossed civet 1000 ft high.