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Attributes | |
ACN | 243285 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gyy |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : gyy tower : sat |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3860 flight time type : 2 |
ASRS Report | 243285 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : declared emergency none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The flight departed asw at XX33 am for ord. We were in heavy rain 10000 ft altitude. We had a right engine fire light that illuminated. The captain shut down the engine and feathered. We diverted to gyy airport. Because the captain did not declare an emergency and requested priority handling we shot the VOR/DME 2. Runway length 3606 ft for runway 2. Winds were 120/10 and preferable runway would be runway 12 with 7000 ft available. Captain decided to land the runway 2 instead of circle to land runway 12. Unfortunately the aircraft had too much speed. The aircraft was put on the runway with 2000 ft available. Runway was puddled heavily. Because full reverse was used on the available engine, the aircraft was taken left off the runway. Unfortunately the aircraft's left propeller blade removed the runway light causing a blade repair. Fortunately heavy puddling helped stop the aircraft before any other damage was encountered. Things that should have been done: declare an emergency even though it was not favorable to the company, circle to land to the long runway. No fire was visually seen. The fire detection light was said to go off in heavy rain. Captain should have been told by company this situation has happened previously. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporting pilot was truly an observer in this incident. He had just been hired by the company and was not yet checked out in the aircraft but was along for the ride. There were 2 passenger also and a little cargo. The PIC nearly panicked and needed a lot of help from the reporter. The WX was good under the clouds, so there was plenty of room to maneuver to the long runway. The PIC chose to land on the short runway and went off of the runway damaging the nose gear and the operating propeller. The reporter states that the PIC is no longer with the company. He also states that the aviation manager does not like for his pilots to declare an emergency unless they 'see smoke or paint bubbling.' the reporter reserves the right to declare an emergency any time that he deems necessary. Priority handling was requested and received.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATX SMT WENT OFF THE RWY AFTER SHUTTING DOWN AN ENG INFLT.
Narrative: THE FLT DEPARTED ASW AT XX33 AM FOR ORD. WE WERE IN HVY RAIN 10000 FT ALT. WE HAD A R ENG FIRE LIGHT THAT ILLUMINATED. THE CAPT SHUT DOWN THE ENG AND FEATHERED. WE DIVERTED TO GYY ARPT. BECAUSE THE CAPT DID NOT DECLARE AN EMER AND REQUESTED PRIORITY HANDLING WE SHOT THE VOR/DME 2. RWY LENGTH 3606 FT FOR RWY 2. WINDS WERE 120/10 AND PREFERABLE RWY WOULD BE RWY 12 WITH 7000 FT AVAILABLE. CAPT DECIDED TO LAND THE RWY 2 INSTEAD OF CIRCLE TO LAND RWY 12. UNFORTUNATELY THE ACFT HAD TOO MUCH SPD. THE ACFT WAS PUT ON THE RWY WITH 2000 FT AVAILABLE. RWY WAS PUDDLED HEAVILY. BECAUSE FULL REVERSE WAS USED ON THE AVAILABLE ENG, THE ACFT WAS TAKEN L OFF THE RWY. UNFORTUNATELY THE ACFT'S L PROP BLADE REMOVED THE RWY LIGHT CAUSING A BLADE REPAIR. FORTUNATELY HVY PUDDLING HELPED STOP THE ACFT BEFORE ANY OTHER DAMAGE WAS ENCOUNTERED. THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE: DECLARE AN EMER EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT FAVORABLE TO THE COMPANY, CIRCLE TO LAND TO THE LONG RWY. NO FIRE WAS VISUALLY SEEN. THE FIRE DETECTION LIGHT WAS SAID TO GO OFF IN HVY RAIN. CAPT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD BY COMPANY THIS SIT HAS HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTING PLT WAS TRULY AN OBSERVER IN THIS INCIDENT. HE HAD JUST BEEN HIRED BY THE COMPANY AND WAS NOT YET CHKED OUT IN THE ACFT BUT WAS ALONG FOR THE RIDE. THERE WERE 2 PAX ALSO AND A LITTLE CARGO. THE PIC NEARLY PANICKED AND NEEDED A LOT OF HELP FROM THE RPTR. THE WX WAS GOOD UNDER THE CLOUDS, SO THERE WAS PLENTY OF ROOM TO MANEUVER TO THE LONG RWY. THE PIC CHOSE TO LAND ON THE SHORT RWY AND WENT OFF OF THE RWY DAMAGING THE NOSE GEAR AND THE OPERATING PROP. THE RPTR STATES THAT THE PIC IS NO LONGER WITH THE COMPANY. HE ALSO STATES THAT THE AVIATION MGR DOES NOT LIKE FOR HIS PLTS TO DECLARE AN EMER UNLESS THEY 'SEE SMOKE OR PAINT BUBBLING.' THE RPTR RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DECLARE AN EMER ANY TIME THAT HE DEEMS NECESSARY. PRIORITY HANDLING WAS REQUESTED AND RECEIVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.