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Attributes | |
ACN | 244528 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : crp |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3700 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : crp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 16000 |
ASRS Report | 244528 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On approach to corpus, a navy trainer also on approach, but to navy corpus, was told to stay above and behind our aircraft. He called us in sight on UHF but we could not see him because of the sun. He flew directly over us at less than 200 ft resulting in our TCASII RA 'descend now.' we descended rather abruptly about 200-300 ft. I told approach 'we have an RA, we're going down.' they immediately cleared us visual. These low time navy instructors need to be told if they fly that close it will result in an RA and we must take action. Someone in the cabin could very easily be injured. I know it's fun to roll in on another guy but that was before TCASII!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ON APCH HAS NMAC WITH MTR ON APCH WITH TFC IN SIGHT.
Narrative: ON APCH TO CORPUS, A NAVY TRAINER ALSO ON APCH, BUT TO NAVY CORPUS, WAS TOLD TO STAY ABOVE AND BEHIND OUR ACFT. HE CALLED US IN SIGHT ON UHF BUT WE COULD NOT SEE HIM BECAUSE OF THE SUN. HE FLEW DIRECTLY OVER US AT LESS THAN 200 FT RESULTING IN OUR TCASII RA 'DSND NOW.' WE DSNDED RATHER ABRUPTLY ABOUT 200-300 FT. I TOLD APCH 'WE HAVE AN RA, WE'RE GOING DOWN.' THEY IMMEDIATELY CLRED US VISUAL. THESE LOW TIME NAVY INSTRUCTORS NEED TO BE TOLD IF THEY FLY THAT CLOSE IT WILL RESULT IN AN RA AND WE MUST TAKE ACTION. SOMEONE IN THE CABIN COULD VERY EASILY BE INJURED. I KNOW IT'S FUN TO ROLL IN ON ANOTHER GUY BUT THAT WAS BEFORE TCASII!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.