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Small aircraft on landing roll has medium large transport approach close behind. Go around of medium large transport, runway excursion of small aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 244827 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199306 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : orf |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : zjx |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 900 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 244827 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 150 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was on a night VFR cross country training flight, out of W83. After an uneventful flight, we entered the norfolk arsa at approximately XX00 pm local. Approach control was busy, but professional, and I have made this same flight, in same conditions, dozens of times. We were vectored to the airport, and, after calling the airport in sight, were told to contact the tower, which we did. After calling traffic in sight, we were cleared to land on runway 5, following traffic. Our airspeed was approximately 100 KIAS at that time. Established on final, and cleared to land, we continued to the runway at approximately 80 KIAS, then slowed to 70 KIAS, and landed on the numbers. Doing a routine rollout, and preparing for a right turnoff which was still quite a way away, I for some reason, thought to look behind me -- something I do not normally do. At that time, I saw 4 landing lights of an medium large transport behind me. We were in a situation that could have led to a collision -- due to the rapid approach speed of the medium large transport and our taxi speed. I immediately took control, applied full power and ran off the runway, into the grass. Shortly after seeing the medium large transport and maneuvering off the active, I heard the crew of the medium large transport inquire if there was traffic on the runway. The tower replied that there was, and instructed the medium large transport to go around, after a short delay. The medium large transport passed above our aircraft just as I cleared the active into the grass. I am not sure of his proximity, but I could clearly see it in the overhead window above the pilots' seat. We feel fortunate to be alive, and I am certain there would have been a collision if I had not, for some reason, turned around. I do not remember hearing the medium large transport cleared to land behind me. As far as night collision avoidance, aircraft need better rearward visibility. East.g., the lax collision, they could not see the aircraft holding on the runway -- almost the same situation with us. I feel the tower controller is to blame for this incident. He did not have a clue where I was, or how fast an medium large transport approachs the airport. The medium large transport pilot said he had us in sight, but an aircraft can easily be lost in the sea of airport lights. He just could not see us, and no wonder, considering our meager collision avoidance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA ON LNDG ROLL HAS MLG APCH CLOSE BEHIND. GAR OF MLG, RWY EXCURSION OF SMA.
Narrative: I WAS ON A NIGHT VFR XCOUNTRY TRAINING FLT, OUT OF W83. AFTER AN UNEVENTFUL FLT, WE ENTERED THE NORFOLK ARSA AT APPROX XX00 PM LCL. APCH CTL WAS BUSY, BUT PROFESSIONAL, AND I HAVE MADE THIS SAME FLT, IN SAME CONDITIONS, DOZENS OF TIMES. WE WERE VECTORED TO THE ARPT, AND, AFTER CALLING THE ARPT IN SIGHT, WERE TOLD TO CONTACT THE TWR, WHICH WE DID. AFTER CALLING TFC IN SIGHT, WE WERE CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 5, FOLLOWING TFC. OUR AIRSPD WAS APPROX 100 KIAS AT THAT TIME. ESTABLISHED ON FINAL, AND CLRED TO LAND, WE CONTINUED TO THE RWY AT APPROX 80 KIAS, THEN SLOWED TO 70 KIAS, AND LANDED ON THE NUMBERS. DOING A ROUTINE ROLLOUT, AND PREPARING FOR A R TURNOFF WHICH WAS STILL QUITE A WAY AWAY, I FOR SOME REASON, THOUGHT TO LOOK BEHIND ME -- SOMETHING I DO NOT NORMALLY DO. AT THAT TIME, I SAW 4 LNDG LIGHTS OF AN MLG BEHIND ME. WE WERE IN A SIT THAT COULD HAVE LED TO A COLLISION -- DUE TO THE RAPID APCH SPD OF THE MLG AND OUR TAXI SPD. I IMMEDIATELY TOOK CTL, APPLIED FULL PWR AND RAN OFF THE RWY, INTO THE GRASS. SHORTLY AFTER SEEING THE MLG AND MANEUVERING OFF THE ACTIVE, I HEARD THE CREW OF THE MLG INQUIRE IF THERE WAS TFC ON THE RWY. THE TWR REPLIED THAT THERE WAS, AND INSTRUCTED THE MLG TO GAR, AFTER A SHORT DELAY. THE MLG PASSED ABOVE OUR ACFT JUST AS I CLRED THE ACTIVE INTO THE GRASS. I AM NOT SURE OF HIS PROX, BUT I COULD CLRLY SEE IT IN THE OVERHEAD WINDOW ABOVE THE PLTS' SEAT. WE FEEL FORTUNATE TO BE ALIVE, AND I AM CERTAIN THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A COLLISION IF I HAD NOT, FOR SOME REASON, TURNED AROUND. I DO NOT REMEMBER HEARING THE MLG CLRED TO LAND BEHIND ME. AS FAR AS NIGHT COLLISION AVOIDANCE, ACFT NEED BETTER REARWARD VISIBILITY. E.G., THE LAX COLLISION, THEY COULD NOT SEE THE ACFT HOLDING ON THE RWY -- ALMOST THE SAME SIT WITH US. I FEEL THE TWR CTLR IS TO BLAME FOR THIS INCIDENT. HE DID NOT HAVE A CLUE WHERE I WAS, OR HOW FAST AN MLG APCHS THE ARPT. THE MLG PLT SAID HE HAD US IN SIGHT, BUT AN ACFT CAN EASILY BE LOST IN THE SEA OF ARPT LIGHTS. HE JUST COULD NOT SEE US, AND NO WONDER, CONSIDERING OUR MEAGER COLLISION AVOIDANCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.