Passenger of an small transport private aircraft flight makes radio calls to help out the pilot on s...

Attributes
ACN	245243
Time
Date	199306
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : orf
State Reference	VA
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : orf
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	observation : passenger
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 2300 flight time type : 10
ASRS Report	245243
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

I am an ATP who is under certificate revocation proceedings. I have surrendered my ATP certificate, but still fly for our company and act as a passenger in aircraft with a single PIC and other typed or qualified PIC's of the controls. However, I am and have in several occasions helped out by making radio calls to tower, or ATC with the PIC's permission and ok, I am not sure if that is or is not permissible. The last time I have made such radio calls for the PIC was on jun/xx/93 in fulton county airport and the PIC who was actually flying the aircraft, an small transport twin, gave me permission to call on her behalf. There has never been any incidents or problems as the result of my handling the radio calls and in all flts the PIC's have welcomed my help, but I would still like to make this report in case it is not allowed, to use radio of aircraft in the manner described and I will not do so from now on until I hear otherwise. I have made radio calls on jun/xa, jun/xb, jun/xc, jun/xg, jun/xy and jun/xz -- the first on jun xa and last on jun xz (always with permission of PIC).

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PAX OF AN SMT PVT ACFT FLT MAKES RADIO CALLS TO HELP OUT THE PLT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND QUESTIONS THE LEGALITY OF THIS ACTION.

Narrative: I AM AN ATP WHO IS UNDER CERTIFICATE REVOCATION PROCEEDINGS. I HAVE SURRENDERED MY ATP CERTIFICATE, BUT STILL FLY FOR OUR COMPANY AND ACT AS A PAX IN ACFT WITH A SINGLE PIC AND OTHER TYPED OR QUALIFIED PIC'S OF THE CTLS. HOWEVER, I AM AND HAVE IN SEVERAL OCCASIONS HELPED OUT BY MAKING RADIO CALLS TO TWR, OR ATC WITH THE PIC'S PERMISSION AND OK, I AM NOT SURE IF THAT IS OR IS NOT PERMISSIBLE. THE LAST TIME I HAVE MADE SUCH RADIO CALLS FOR THE PIC WAS ON JUN/XX/93 IN FULTON COUNTY ARPT AND THE PIC WHO WAS ACTUALLY FLYING THE ACFT, AN SMT TWIN, GAVE ME PERMISSION TO CALL ON HER BEHALF. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY INCIDENTS OR PROBS AS THE RESULT OF MY HANDLING THE RADIO CALLS AND IN ALL FLTS THE PIC'S HAVE WELCOMED MY HELP, BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO MAKE THIS RPT IN CASE IT IS NOT ALLOWED, TO USE RADIO OF ACFT IN THE MANNER DESCRIBED AND I WILL NOT DO SO FROM NOW ON UNTIL I HEAR OTHERWISE. I HAVE MADE RADIO CALLS ON JUN/XA, JUN/XB, JUN/XC, JUN/XG, JUN/XY AND JUN/XZ -- THE FIRST ON JUN XA AND LAST ON JUN XZ (ALWAYS WITH PERMISSION OF PIC).

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Passenger of an small transport private aircraft flight makes radio calls to help out the pilot on several occasions and questions the legality of this action.