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Attributes | |
ACN | 245284 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 5 |
ASRS Report | 245284 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error |
Narrative:
While working final approach radar to jfk, VOR 13L approach, WX is VFR, traffic light, complexity light. Cleared light transport for VOR 13L approach, cross asalt at 3000 ft (asalt is VOR 13L approach fix). I received a landline call from the lga empyr sector for a pointout on an air carrier X large transport that was presently southeast descending out of 3400 ft. The controller requested that air carrier X 'turn northeast, reference your large transport.' I approved the pointout. I thought that the air carrier X would make a right turn to the northeast. The large transport made a left turn. The air carrier X large transport was now almost on top of the light transport at the same altitude. Both aircraft are descending. Local controller, who by this point was working the light transport, advised that light transport had the large transport in sight, but needed a right turn to avoid the large transport. This event was the result of poor communication and coordination. The lga empyr controller should have specified that the large transport would make a left turn. I should have asked which direction the large transport would turn.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CONFLICT BTWN 2 ACR ACFT MAKING VISUAL APCHS CAUSED BY MISCOORD OF ATC CTLRS.
Narrative: WHILE WORKING FINAL APCH RADAR TO JFK, VOR 13L APCH, WX IS VFR, TFC LIGHT, COMPLEXITY LIGHT. CLRED LTT FOR VOR 13L APCH, CROSS ASALT AT 3000 FT (ASALT IS VOR 13L APCH FIX). I RECEIVED A LANDLINE CALL FROM THE LGA EMPYR SECTOR FOR A POINTOUT ON AN ACR X LGT THAT WAS PRESENTLY SE DSNDING OUT OF 3400 FT. THE CTLR REQUESTED THAT ACR X 'TURN NE, REF YOUR LGT.' I APPROVED THE POINTOUT. I THOUGHT THAT THE ACR X WOULD MAKE A R TURN TO THE NE. THE LGT MADE A L TURN. THE ACR X LGT WAS NOW ALMOST ON TOP OF THE LTT AT THE SAME ALT. BOTH ACFT ARE DSNDING. LCL CTLR, WHO BY THIS POINT WAS WORKING THE LTT, ADVISED THAT LTT HAD THE LGT IN SIGHT, BUT NEEDED A R TURN TO AVOID THE LGT. THIS EVENT WAS THE RESULT OF POOR COM AND COORD. THE LGA EMPYR CTLR SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIED THAT THE LGT WOULD MAKE A L TURN. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED WHICH DIRECTION THE LGT WOULD TURN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.