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Attributes | |
ACN | 245915 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors enroute airway : dfw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 25 |
ASRS Report | 245915 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 245833 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We departed dfw on a worth 5 departure -- tucumcari transition with an assigned altitude of 10000 ft. The captain was hand flying the aircraft. On climb out, departure assigned us a westerly heading and advised that, due to WX, we were to be assigned to intercept the dfw 262 degree radial outbound with further clearance to come from ZFW. As PNF, I attempted to enter the new routing into the FMC using my FMC control display unit (CDU). Meanwhile, the captain (unknown to me, head down feverishly working on my CDU) selected manual VOR tuning on 117.0 and was ready to use the single pointer (selected to VOR) and RDMI to complete the intercept. I informed the captain of my difficulties, he diverted his attention to his CDU to see what I had done. About then, we passed through 10000 ft. I think the altitude alert light and caution signals activated. The captain promptly returned the aircraft to 1000 ft. The controller called us and started to ask a question, but then stopped. End of occurrence. Factors -- this was my second flight as PNF in aircraft type. All of my previous flying was in non advanced cockpit type aircraft. My inexperience led me to attempt to generate a computer solution for a simple manual VOR problem. The captain (with 20 plus yrs as captain but only 100 hours in aircraft type) allowed me to distract him at an inopportune moment. Attempting to reduce the workload through automation created a more demanding situation, distracting us from the basics of flying. Recommendation -- internal aircraft altitude alerts should be set to alert flcs for corrective action before altitude deviation reaches safety limits/ FAA alert parameters. This would provide for earlier correct flight crew response when they are momentarily distracted by any of a myriad of possible sits. Supplemental information from acn 245833: 2 new 'guys' trying to keep up with the computer -- I reverted to a manual intercept.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT IN NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED DFW ON A WORTH 5 DEP -- TUCUMCARI TRANSITION WITH AN ASSIGNED ALT OF 10000 FT. THE CAPT WAS HAND FLYING THE ACFT. ON CLBOUT, DEP ASSIGNED US A WESTERLY HDG AND ADVISED THAT, DUE TO WX, WE WERE TO BE ASSIGNED TO INTERCEPT THE DFW 262 DEG RADIAL OUTBOUND WITH FURTHER CLRNC TO COME FROM ZFW. AS PNF, I ATTEMPTED TO ENTER THE NEW ROUTING INTO THE FMC USING MY FMC CTL DISPLAY UNIT (CDU). MEANWHILE, THE CAPT (UNKNOWN TO ME, HEAD DOWN FEVERISHLY WORKING ON MY CDU) SELECTED MANUAL VOR TUNING ON 117.0 AND WAS READY TO USE THE SINGLE POINTER (SELECTED TO VOR) AND RDMI TO COMPLETE THE INTERCEPT. I INFORMED THE CAPT OF MY DIFFICULTIES, HE DIVERTED HIS ATTN TO HIS CDU TO SEE WHAT I HAD DONE. ABOUT THEN, WE PASSED THROUGH 10000 FT. I THINK THE ALT ALERT LIGHT AND CAUTION SIGNALS ACTIVATED. THE CAPT PROMPTLY RETURNED THE ACFT TO 1000 FT. THE CTLR CALLED US AND STARTED TO ASK A QUESTION, BUT THEN STOPPED. END OF OCCURRENCE. FACTORS -- THIS WAS MY SECOND FLT AS PNF IN ACFT TYPE. ALL OF MY PREVIOUS FLYING WAS IN NON ADVANCED COCKPIT TYPE ACFT. MY INEXPERIENCE LED ME TO ATTEMPT TO GENERATE A COMPUTER SOLUTION FOR A SIMPLE MANUAL VOR PROB. THE CAPT (WITH 20 PLUS YRS AS CAPT BUT ONLY 100 HRS IN ACFT TYPE) ALLOWED ME TO DISTRACT HIM AT AN INOPPORTUNE MOMENT. ATTEMPTING TO REDUCE THE WORKLOAD THROUGH AUTOMATION CREATED A MORE DEMANDING SIT, DISTRACTING US FROM THE BASICS OF FLYING. RECOMMENDATION -- INTERNAL ACFT ALT ALERTS SHOULD BE SET TO ALERT FLCS FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION BEFORE ALTDEV REACHES SAFETY LIMITS/ FAA ALERT PARAMETERS. THIS WOULD PROVIDE FOR EARLIER CORRECT FLC RESPONSE WHEN THEY ARE MOMENTARILY DISTRACTED BY ANY OF A MYRIAD OF POSSIBLE SITS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 245833: 2 NEW 'GUYS' TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE COMPUTER -- I REVERTED TO A MANUAL INTERCEPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.