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Attributes | |
ACN | 246568 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mht |
State Reference | NH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5400 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 246568 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was first officer on airlines express flight scheduled to depart iad for mht. The flight was departing late enough that, by arrival time, the tower would be closed. We received word that there was no longer any qualified ground observer at mht for a WX and TA. Therefore, according to our understanding of far 121 regulations and our operations specifications, we could not legally land. My captain concurred. The captain then called our director of operations via phone (we still had not departed). The director of operations said that he had had this problem before, and that according to our FAA principal operating inspector's interpretation of the regulations and operations specifications, we could legally proceed. Based on our director of operations verbal assurance that we were legal, our captain elected to go. I did so too, reluctantly. The WX was clear, calm, and visibility unrestricted. We were able to cancel IFR and landed VFR. I do not believe safety was compromised at any time during this flight. If it had been, I would not have done it. However, if a crew was to proceed under these circumstances during IMC conditions, safety would most certainly be compromised. Upon further review of far 121 regulations and our own operations specifications, I do not agree with the principal operating inspector's interpretation. I believe undue pressure was put on us to continue this flight. I have learned from this that I cannot allow myself to be pressured into doing something I am uncomfortable with in an airplane. If a similar incident occurs again, I will refuse the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER DEPARTS KNOWING TWR WILL BE CLOSED WITH NO WX PERSONNEL AT DEST. CANCEL IFR AND LAND VFR.
Narrative: I WAS FO ON AIRLINES EXPRESS FLT SCHEDULED TO DEPART IAD FOR MHT. THE FLT WAS DEPARTING LATE ENOUGH THAT, BY ARR TIME, THE TWR WOULD BE CLOSED. WE RECEIVED WORD THAT THERE WAS NO LONGER ANY QUALIFIED GND OBSERVER AT MHT FOR A WX AND TA. THEREFORE, ACCORDING TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF FAR 121 REGS AND OUR OPS SPECS, WE COULD NOT LEGALLY LAND. MY CAPT CONCURRED. THE CAPT THEN CALLED OUR DIRECTOR OF OPS VIA PHONE (WE STILL HAD NOT DEPARTED). THE DIRECTOR OF OPS SAID THAT HE HAD HAD THIS PROB BEFORE, AND THAT ACCORDING TO OUR FAA PRINCIPAL OPERATING INSPECTOR'S INTERP OF THE REGS AND OPS SPECS, WE COULD LEGALLY PROCEED. BASED ON OUR DIRECTOR OF OPS VERBAL ASSURANCE THAT WE WERE LEGAL, OUR CAPT ELECTED TO GO. I DID SO TOO, RELUCTANTLY. THE WX WAS CLR, CALM, AND VISIBILITY UNRESTRICTED. WE WERE ABLE TO CANCEL IFR AND LANDED VFR. I DO NOT BELIEVE SAFETY WAS COMPROMISED AT ANY TIME DURING THIS FLT. IF IT HAD BEEN, I WOULD NOT HAVE DONE IT. HOWEVER, IF A CREW WAS TO PROCEED UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES DURING IMC CONDITIONS, SAFETY WOULD MOST CERTAINLY BE COMPROMISED. UPON FURTHER REVIEW OF FAR 121 REGS AND OUR OWN OPS SPECS, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE PRINCIPAL OPERATING INSPECTOR'S INTERP. I BELIEVE UNDUE PRESSURE WAS PUT ON US TO CONTINUE THIS FLT. I HAVE LEARNED FROM THIS THAT I CANNOT ALLOW MYSELF TO BE PRESSURED INTO DOING SOMETHING I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IN AN AIRPLANE. IF A SIMILAR INCIDENT OCCURS AGAIN, I WILL REFUSE THE FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.