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Attributes | |
ACN | 246567 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : o409 airport : oh09 |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | landing other other |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | landing other other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 246567 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Wind west 12-15 KTS, sky clear, 3 aircraft landing at OH09 grass runway 1800 ft long, runway 9/27. #1 small aircraft X landing east, #2 small aircraft Y landing west. #2 aircraft entered left downwind for normal approach. #1 aircraft entered a modified right base and landed east forcing #2 aircraft to go around. #2 aircraft reentered pattern and made a normal landing. Enters #3 aircraft small aircraft Z. #3 aircraft makes a modified right base low and downwind. #2 aircraft is on the landing roll and totally committed so #3 aircraft made a go around, reentered and landed west. Wind sock clearly is out full and indicating a west wind. Trees and water indications the same indication. Radio frequency is a major problem with several airports within a 5 mi radius, OH09 is 122.9. Others use 123.0 and 122.8. A common frequency 123.05 would help since the commercial carrier operates in and out of airports within 2-3 mi of each other and changing frequencys that quick is a problem. Many of us monitor both frequencys but the noise is a problem. I have contacted the owner of the commercial operation and he will instruct his pilots in the need to land into the wind. The pilot of aircraft #3 has a habit of doing this type of operation. As a professional captain for a major corporation for 28 yrs, I trust my comments to the involved pilots will do some good. I also wish your office could put some pressure on FCC and the port authority operating the island airports to change to a common frequency. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states he was an observer on the ground while this scenario was taking place. What bothers him is it happens all too often. This is an island airport, privately owned but does have a commercial charter operation. The manager of the operation has been very responsive and his pilots now use the standard, accepted uncontrolled airport pattern. In described incident, the #2 aircraft had overflown the airport and made the proper pattern, landing in proper direction. #3 aircraft was plted by a pilot who uses his aircraft to commute to work and seems to do whatever is convenient to come and go. Many pilots fly from one island to another and reporter feels the common frequency would help greatly with the party line aspect and eliminate the fast frequency change.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OBSERVER WATCHES AS 2 ACFT AT NON TWR ARPT LAND DOWNWIND, FORCING ACFT LNDG CORRECTLY TO MAKE A GAR. FREQ PROB MAY BE AN ASPECT.
Narrative: WIND W 12-15 KTS, SKY CLR, 3 ACFT LNDG AT OH09 GRASS RWY 1800 FT LONG, RWY 9/27. #1 SMA X LNDG E, #2 SMA Y LNDG W. #2 ACFT ENTERED L DOWNWIND FOR NORMAL APCH. #1 ACFT ENTERED A MODIFIED R BASE AND LANDED E FORCING #2 ACFT TO GAR. #2 ACFT REENTERED PATTERN AND MADE A NORMAL LNDG. ENTERS #3 ACFT SMA Z. #3 ACFT MAKES A MODIFIED R BASE LOW AND DOWNWIND. #2 ACFT IS ON THE LNDG ROLL AND TOTALLY COMMITTED SO #3 ACFT MADE A GAR, REENTERED AND LANDED W. WIND SOCK CLRLY IS OUT FULL AND INDICATING A W WIND. TREES AND WATER INDICATIONS THE SAME INDICATION. RADIO FREQ IS A MAJOR PROB WITH SEVERAL ARPTS WITHIN A 5 MI RADIUS, OH09 IS 122.9. OTHERS USE 123.0 AND 122.8. A COMMON FREQ 123.05 WOULD HELP SINCE THE COMMERCIAL CARRIER OPERATES IN AND OUT OF ARPTS WITHIN 2-3 MI OF EACH OTHER AND CHANGING FREQS THAT QUICK IS A PROB. MANY OF US MONITOR BOTH FREQS BUT THE NOISE IS A PROB. I HAVE CONTACTED THE OWNER OF THE COMMERCIAL OP AND HE WILL INSTRUCT HIS PLTS IN THE NEED TO LAND INTO THE WIND. THE PLT OF ACFT #3 HAS A HABIT OF DOING THIS TYPE OF OP. AS A PROFESSIONAL CAPT FOR A MAJOR CORPORATION FOR 28 YRS, I TRUST MY COMMENTS TO THE INVOLVED PLTS WILL DO SOME GOOD. I ALSO WISH YOUR OFFICE COULD PUT SOME PRESSURE ON FCC AND THE PORT AUTHORITY OPERATING THE ISLAND ARPTS TO CHANGE TO A COMMON FREQ. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HE WAS AN OBSERVER ON THE GND WHILE THIS SCENARIO WAS TAKING PLACE. WHAT BOTHERS HIM IS IT HAPPENS ALL TOO OFTEN. THIS IS AN ISLAND ARPT, PRIVATELY OWNED BUT DOES HAVE A COMMERCIAL CHARTER OP. THE MGR OF THE OP HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE AND HIS PLTS NOW USE THE STANDARD, ACCEPTED UNCTLED ARPT PATTERN. IN DESCRIBED INCIDENT, THE #2 ACFT HAD OVERFLOWN THE ARPT AND MADE THE PROPER PATTERN, LNDG IN PROPER DIRECTION. #3 ACFT WAS PLTED BY A PLT WHO USES HIS ACFT TO COMMUTE TO WORK AND SEEMS TO DO WHATEVER IS CONVENIENT TO COME AND GO. MANY PLTS FLY FROM ONE ISLAND TO ANOTHER AND RPTR FEELS THE COMMON FREQ WOULD HELP GREATLY WITH THE PARTY LINE ASPECT AND ELIMINATE THE FAST FREQ CHANGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.