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Attributes | |
ACN | 247147 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : blh |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 40600 msl bound upper : 41000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla artcc : czqx |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 22 |
ASRS Report | 247147 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | oversight : supervisor |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Cpr X en route lax-aus apparently violated R2306A. Cleared direct elp, X was unable to reach FL410 prior to entering R2306A (released for use about FL410). X was within 3 NM of R2306A at FL406. I showed the violation to the assistant air traffic manager, who said 'well, it's close enough.' I told him it should be looked into, unless 300 ft is the approved criteria (cpr X now showed FL407). Later, I asked supervisor if he had investigated the incident. He said no, there was no violation because he saw cpr X approaching R2306A at FL408, even though 2 other controllers saw cpr X entering R2306A at FL407, at the time supervisor was observing it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR X UNAUTH AIRSPACE PENETRATION. POSSIBLE OPDEV.
Narrative: CPR X ENRTE LAX-AUS APPARENTLY VIOLATED R2306A. CLRED DIRECT ELP, X WAS UNABLE TO REACH FL410 PRIOR TO ENTERING R2306A (RELEASED FOR USE ABOUT FL410). X WAS WITHIN 3 NM OF R2306A AT FL406. I SHOWED THE VIOLATION TO THE ASSISTANT AIR TFC MGR, WHO SAID 'WELL, IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.' I TOLD HIM IT SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO, UNLESS 300 FT IS THE APPROVED CRITERIA (CPR X NOW SHOWED FL407). LATER, I ASKED SUPVR IF HE HAD INVESTIGATED THE INCIDENT. HE SAID NO, THERE WAS NO VIOLATION BECAUSE HE SAW CPR X APCHING R2306A AT FL408, EVEN THOUGH 2 OTHER CTLRS SAW CPR X ENTERING R2306A AT FL407, AT THE TIME SUPVR WAS OBSERVING IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.