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Attributes | |
ACN | 247191 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iiu airport : sdf |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 12500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid tracon : sdf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 247191 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 247927 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
At handoff from ZID to sdf approach at 11000 ft, we got an RA on TCASII and immediately initiated a TCASII climb. The TCASII traffic showed the conflict to be at 12 O'clock position and 3 mi and 300 ft below us, and climbing. We climbed approximately 1500 ft above our assigned altitude. After advising sdf approach of this deviation, I asked if they had the traffic on their radar and was told they did at 11100 ft. This entire event took about 20 seconds from the time ZID gave us the frequency change. On the ground, I contacted ZID by phone and spoke to the supervisor to ask why no one spoke up about the traffic. I was told the traffic was VFR at 10000 ft and 10 mi and must have initiated a climb at the time of the handoff. They were aware that the traffic was there, but no one reported the traffic to us. Thanks to TCASII. It performed well.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC TURNED INTO POTENTIAL CONFLICT BY TCASII RA AND FLC'S RESPONSE IN EVASIVE ACTION CLB.
Narrative: AT HDOF FROM ZID TO SDF APCH AT 11000 FT, WE GOT AN RA ON TCASII AND IMMEDIATELY INITIATED A TCASII CLB. THE TCASII TFC SHOWED THE CONFLICT TO BE AT 12 O'CLOCK POS AND 3 MI AND 300 FT BELOW US, AND CLBING. WE CLBED APPROX 1500 FT ABOVE OUR ASSIGNED ALT. AFTER ADVISING SDF APCH OF THIS DEV, I ASKED IF THEY HAD THE TFC ON THEIR RADAR AND WAS TOLD THEY DID AT 11100 FT. THIS ENTIRE EVENT TOOK ABOUT 20 SECONDS FROM THE TIME ZID GAVE US THE FREQ CHANGE. ON THE GND, I CONTACTED ZID BY PHONE AND SPOKE TO THE SUPVR TO ASK WHY NO ONE SPOKE UP ABOUT THE TFC. I WAS TOLD THE TFC WAS VFR AT 10000 FT AND 10 MI AND MUST HAVE INITIATED A CLB AT THE TIME OF THE HDOF. THEY WERE AWARE THAT THE TFC WAS THERE, BUT NO ONE RPTED THE TFC TO US. THANKS TO TCASII. IT PERFORMED WELL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.