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Attributes | |
ACN | 248724 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sln |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sln |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time total : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 248724 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Student pilot training was in progress. Instructor pilot was in rear cockpit. Mission was flown to salina for the ILS to runway 35, touch-and-go to area work, back to salina for pattern work. We were being sequenced for the ILS (second one) after the area work. ZKC vectored us onto the final approach course from above the glide path. We were cleared for the approach. There were no other calls made by ZKC (no handoff to tower). Inside the locator OM (LOM), flory, I directed the student to contact salina tower. Upon contacting the tower, here is what happened, to the best of my recollection. Salina tower: 'small aircraft number, cleared to land, call flory inbound.' small aircraft number: 'roger, small aircraft number is 5 mi touch-and-go.' the student acknowledged the call. I was unable to ask him what was said, as we had started the approach from a high, fast position and no other calls were made. Approaching 1/2 mi final, the student initiated a go around. At 100-150 ft AGL, we spotted an orange and white aircraft near the eastern edge of the runway. I believe we got no closer than 100 ft to the other aircraft. Reduced visibility was also a factor in the late sighting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA SEL TRAINING ACFT HAD CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH ANOTHER SMA ACFT WAITING FOR TKOF ON THE SIDE OF THE RWY DURING A MISSED APCH FROM A PRACTICE ILS APCH.
Narrative: STUDENT PLT TRAINING WAS IN PROGRESS. INSTRUCTOR PLT WAS IN REAR COCKPIT. MISSION WAS FLOWN TO SALINA FOR THE ILS TO RWY 35, TOUCH-AND-GO TO AREA WORK, BACK TO SALINA FOR PATTERN WORK. WE WERE BEING SEQUENCED FOR THE ILS (SECOND ONE) AFTER THE AREA WORK. ZKC VECTORED US ONTO THE FINAL APCH COURSE FROM ABOVE THE GLIDE PATH. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH. THERE WERE NO OTHER CALLS MADE BY ZKC (NO HDOF TO TWR). INSIDE THE LOCATOR OM (LOM), FLORY, I DIRECTED THE STUDENT TO CONTACT SALINA TWR. UPON CONTACTING THE TWR, HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED, TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION. SALINA TWR: 'SMA NUMBER, CLRED TO LAND, CALL FLORY INBOUND.' SMA NUMBER: 'ROGER, SMA NUMBER IS 5 MI TOUCH-AND-GO.' THE STUDENT ACKNOWLEDGED THE CALL. I WAS UNABLE TO ASK HIM WHAT WAS SAID, AS WE HAD STARTED THE APCH FROM A HIGH, FAST POS AND NO OTHER CALLS WERE MADE. APCHING 1/2 MI FINAL, THE STUDENT INITIATED A GAR. AT 100-150 FT AGL, WE SPOTTED AN ORANGE AND WHITE ACFT NEAR THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE RWY. I BELIEVE WE GOT NO CLOSER THAN 100 FT TO THE OTHER ACFT. REDUCED VISIBILITY WAS ALSO A FACTOR IN THE LATE SIGHTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.