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Attributes | |
ACN | 250361 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gsp |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 250361 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 250359 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Discrepancy occurred when the captain of the aircraft experienced an altimeter and altitude alerter failure on his side of the aircraft. As required, we returned to the ramp to unload passenger and try to fix the problem. The problem could not be corrected so the captain contacted our dispatcher to determine what we were to do. After approximately 1 1/2 hours and several phone calls, it was determined that we were to ferry the aircraft from gsp to rdu. The captain coordinated additional fuel, a ferry permit, and the other pertinent information. However, he did not have the maintenance logbook signed for release for the ferry flight. Supplemental information from acn 250359: after about 2 or 3 more phone calls with both dispatch and maintenance we agreed to ferry it to rdu (clear and 7) another maintenance base. I pulled up the ferry permit on the computer, had the extra gas and ballast put in cargo and we left for rdu. Now during one of those phone calls maintenance said we needed contract maintenance to sign the maintenance log for a one time ferry permit, which takes 1/2 - 2 hours for them to get to the airport. Yes, I totally forgot about any log entry after I finally pulled my ferry paper work out of the computer. As we rolled into the rdu maintenance hangar they told me 'the rest of the story.' P.south. We came on and gsp was a 3 hour 26 min ground wait built in the schedule. Scheduled departure time PM16 local, which means we were heading for a 'normal' 12-15 hour day! Why is it that dispatchers can only work 10 hours?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PIC ON FERRY FLT ARRIVES AT DEST ARPT AND DISCOVERS HE FORGOT TO MAKE ENTRIES IN LOGBOOK REGARDING ACFT DISCREPANCIES AND THAT THERE WAS NO FERRY PERMIT SIGNATURE FROM MAINT.
Narrative: DISCREPANCY OCCURRED WHEN THE CAPT OF THE ACFT EXPERIENCED AN ALTIMETER AND ALT ALERTER FAILURE ON HIS SIDE OF THE ACFT. AS REQUIRED, WE RETURNED TO THE RAMP TO UNLOAD PAX AND TRY TO FIX THE PROB. THE PROB COULD NOT BE CORRECTED SO THE CAPT CONTACTED OUR DISPATCHER TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WERE TO DO. AFTER APPROX 1 1/2 HRS AND SEVERAL PHONE CALLS, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE WERE TO FERRY THE ACFT FROM GSP TO RDU. THE CAPT COORDINATED ADDITIONAL FUEL, A FERRY PERMIT, AND THE OTHER PERTINENT INFO. HOWEVER, HE DID NOT HAVE THE MAINT LOGBOOK SIGNED FOR RELEASE FOR THE FERRY FLT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 250359: AFTER ABOUT 2 OR 3 MORE PHONE CALLS WITH BOTH DISPATCH AND MAINT WE AGREED TO FERRY IT TO RDU (CLR AND 7) ANOTHER MAINT BASE. I PULLED UP THE FERRY PERMIT ON THE COMPUTER, HAD THE EXTRA GAS AND BALLAST PUT IN CARGO AND WE LEFT FOR RDU. NOW DURING ONE OF THOSE PHONE CALLS MAINT SAID WE NEEDED CONTRACT MAINT TO SIGN THE MAINT LOG FOR A ONE TIME FERRY PERMIT, WHICH TAKES 1/2 - 2 HRS FOR THEM TO GET TO THE ARPT. YES, I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT ANY LOG ENTRY AFTER I FINALLY PULLED MY FERRY PAPER WORK OUT OF THE COMPUTER. AS WE ROLLED INTO THE RDU MAINT HANGAR THEY TOLD ME 'THE REST OF THE STORY.' P.S. WE CAME ON AND GSP WAS A 3 HR 26 MIN GND WAIT BUILT IN THE SCHEDULE. SCHEDULED DEP TIME PM16 LCL, WHICH MEANS WE WERE HEADING FOR A 'NORMAL' 12-15 HR DAY! WHY IS IT THAT DISPATCHERS CAN ONLY WORK 10 HRS?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.