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Attributes | |
ACN | 250847 |
Time | |
Date | 199309 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt tower : clt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 250847 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 8400 flight time type : 5600 |
ASRS Report | 250495 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our company uses pre departure clearance to retrieve ATC clearance on ACARS. I requested our clearance but it didn't come up. I left the aircraft for a couple of mins and when I returned, I failed to request the clearance a second time. We completed all checklists and departed still failing to realize we hadn't received the clearance. On climb out, we received the departure frequency from the tower. Departure gave us the correct squawk code. Since we had a copy of the company routing and were accustomed to using the hornet SID, we were lucky we ended up doing what we were supposed to do. I was surprised that none of the controllers seemed aware that we didn't have the text of the clearance. I'm also surprised the captain didn't catch my mistake. He was in the cockpit the entire time (at the gate). I thing he was preoccupied with something. Sometimes things become so routine it becomes easy to overlook the obvious. On our checklist (before start) there is an item 'radios/ACARS.' that was our only opportunity to prevent this error, but neither of us looked up the departure frequency or squawk code. Supplemental information from acn 250495: there seems to be no real xchk if a clearance has been received by pre departure clearance. Pilots need to xchk themselves with some sort of reminder. For example: altitude alerter set to 0 or transponder on 0000 until clearance received.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG DEPARTS WITHOUT PDC CLRNC.
Narrative: OUR COMPANY USES PDC TO RETRIEVE ATC CLRNC ON ACARS. I REQUESTED OUR CLRNC BUT IT DIDN'T COME UP. I LEFT THE ACFT FOR A COUPLE OF MINS AND WHEN I RETURNED, I FAILED TO REQUEST THE CLRNC A SECOND TIME. WE COMPLETED ALL CHKLISTS AND DEPARTED STILL FAILING TO REALIZE WE HADN'T RECEIVED THE CLRNC. ON CLBOUT, WE RECEIVED THE DEP FREQ FROM THE TWR. DEP GAVE US THE CORRECT SQUAWK CODE. SINCE WE HAD A COPY OF THE COMPANY ROUTING AND WERE ACCUSTOMED TO USING THE HORNET SID, WE WERE LUCKY WE ENDED UP DOING WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. I WAS SURPRISED THAT NONE OF THE CTLRS SEEMED AWARE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TEXT OF THE CLRNC. I'M ALSO SURPRISED THE CAPT DIDN'T CATCH MY MISTAKE. HE WAS IN THE COCKPIT THE ENTIRE TIME (AT THE GATE). I THING HE WAS PREOCCUPIED WITH SOMETHING. SOMETIMES THINGS BECOME SO ROUTINE IT BECOMES EASY TO OVERLOOK THE OBVIOUS. ON OUR CHKLIST (BEFORE START) THERE IS AN ITEM 'RADIOS/ACARS.' THAT WAS OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO PREVENT THIS ERROR, BUT NEITHER OF US LOOKED UP THE DEP FREQ OR SQUAWK CODE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 250495: THERE SEEMS TO BE NO REAL XCHK IF A CLRNC HAS BEEN RECEIVED BY PDC. PLTS NEED TO XCHK THEMSELVES WITH SOME SORT OF REMINDER. FOR EXAMPLE: ALT ALERTER SET TO 0 OR XPONDER ON 0000 UNTIL CLRNC RECEIVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.